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Old 05-03-2015, 07:09 AM  
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La'el Collins will sign as a free agent

According to Gil Brandt on Sirius/XM radio. He will sign with an NFL team and that means he'll pretty much play at a minimum contract.

Sounds like he's talking with investigators early next week.

Go get him, Dorsey!
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Old 05-04-2015, 07:56 AM   #166
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I can't believe anyone would feel sorry for this guy??

Police reached out to him the Saturday before the draft to tell him his on again/off again 9 month pregnant girlfriend was gunned down by someone she knew, not to mention his baby boy was trying to hang on for his life at that time. He never got back with police despite them telling his family and agents they needed to speak to him. A rep for Collins didn't get back with police until the day of the draft to let police know he would contact them at some point after the draft.

There is something wrong with that.

Nfl teams private investigators know more than anyone, and him not being selected at all speaks volumes.

Look at what Eagles said even though they need O-line help and didn't select one in draft.

"It wasn't a hard decision," said Philadelphia Eagles coach Chip Kelly, whose team did not draft a lineman. "I don't think we should be talking about draft picks. I think two people have lost their lives, and I think that's a little bit more important than that. We weren't really thinking about the draft at that point in time with him."


Some thought the New Orleans Saints might consider the hometown star, but coach Sean Payton said the case made it too hard to pick him.

"It's unusual, the circumstances surrounding his week," Payton said. "That's something I think that a lot of teams looked at the same way. This is significant. With what we know now, or what we don't know, we'd be hard-pressed to make a decision like that."

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Old 05-04-2015, 07:59 AM   #167
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Key word there is "alleged". Charges were dropped and he was cleared. How is that hypocrisy ?? Only Jameis knows what really happened and he has to live with himself IF he did anything. If La'el is thoroughly cleared let him play. So you are telling me "you" would be that one GM that would take that risk potentially hiring a murderer knowing that ahead of time?
Charges dropped doesn't mean cleared.

La'el hasn't been charged with anything right now. That may change, but the league is apparently taking the stance that you're guilty until proven innocent - unless you're a QB.
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Old 05-04-2015, 08:01 AM   #168
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I can't believe anyone would feel sorry for this guy??

Police reached out to him the Saturday before the draft to tell him his on again/off again 9 month pregnant girlfriend was gunned down by someone she knew, not to mention his baby boy was trying to hang on for his life at that time. He never got back with police despite them telling his family and agents they needed to speak to him. A rep for Collins didn't get back with police until the day of the draft to let police know he would contact them at some point after the draft.

There is something wrong with that.

Nfl teams private investigators know more than anyone, and him not being selected at all speaks volumes.

Look at what Eagles said even though they need O-line help and didn't select one in draft.

"It wasn't a hard decision," said Philadelphia Eagles coach Chip Kelly, whose team did not draft a lineman. "I don't think we should be talking about draft picks. I think two people have lost their lives, and I think that's a little bit more important than that. We weren't really thinking about the draft at that point in time with him."
It's not a matter of feeling bad for La'el - he's not owed anything. It's more of the double standard and hypocrisy of the league. Guys like Shane Ray and Randy Gregory fall in the draft, La'el goes undrafted. If you're a QB, however, you go #1 overall.
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Old 05-04-2015, 08:03 AM   #169
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It's not a matter of feeling bad for La'el - he's not owed anything. It's more of the double standard and hypocrisy of the league. Guys like Shane Ray and Randy Gregory fall in the draft, La'el goes undrafted. If you're a QB, however, you go #1 overall.
Smoking weed and a murder for hire investigation are not the same thing.
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Old 05-04-2015, 08:06 AM   #170
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Smoking weed and a murder for hire investigation are not the same thing.
How about smoking weed vs. alleged rape, confirmed theft, shouting obscenities in the middle of a student union - among other indiscretions?
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Too bad the lynch mob doesn't understand the drafting a player simply gives you an option contract to sign the player.
"Perception is reality" and Goodell had to learn this the hard way. Prudence and decency are rarely followed in our society nowadays due to the extreme narcissism and greed of our American culture that now rules. But what these GMs did was the right thing to do BUT did they do it because they are actually prudent and decent or were they instructed not to,to your point ? That's a whole another conversation
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Charges dropped doesn't mean cleared.

La'el hasn't been charged with anything right now. That may change, but the league is apparently taking the stance that you're guilty until proven innocent - unless you're a QB.
You would be that one GM then??
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Old 05-04-2015, 08:14 AM   #173
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Guys like Shane Ray and Randy Gregory fall in the draft, La'el goes undrafted. If you're a QB, however, you go #1 overall.
Nah, Apples to Oranges my friend. Look at the timing of all these guys. Ray and Gregory's were right b4 the draft/combine. I assure you IF Winston decided to come out last year when all his accusations were occurring he would have dropped big time IF not drafted at all. Time helped Winston get everything cleaned up and another stellar season sealed the deal.
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Old 05-04-2015, 08:17 AM   #174
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Not nearly as many people as you think will only play in New York or LA. Oh wait LA doesn't even have a team.

He's an OL, he would love to play in KC and eat the food around there.
You're assuming he wants some high profile media heavy market.

He's an Olineman - there's no advantage to signing with a big market team because that position isn't featured for big or really any sponsorship deals outside of local media promos.

He'll probably sign with the team that has the best opportunity to start and narrow it down based on

•Opportunity to win
•Reputation of the organization
•Open salary cap money not already committed to players in a few years
•His agent's opinion
•What staffs he felt most comfortable with when doing the rounds before the draft.

I wouldn't say KC is a "frontrunner",
But Reid has a great reputation as does Dorsey.
KC is considered a likely playoff team on the rise,

If there's a need on this team it's at oline - and he will be up for signing his new deal right about the same time that Fisher is hitting the end of his contract, so cap space will be available as it's been known by the organization will have to address keeping and paying or looking elsewhere to fill the position.

Quite honestly, Collins and his agent have to view KC high on that list. KC only really addressed a potential replacement at Center. The rest of the line, including Fisher at LT, is open for competition. It's not inconceivable if he was signed, they may look at putting Fisher back at RT, and then Collins would have a shot at the LT spot. The most coveted along the lines in terms of signing a lucrative 2nd contract.

Few other places are feasibly open to get that opportunity for what many predict will be a playoff team and likely could win the division for the foreseeable future after this season when Manning retires. There's a lot more question marks about how good can Denver be without Manning at the helm.

Rivers is in his final year of his contract and they have a lot more areas they need to improve at to be considered a possible Super Bowl team, and Oakland is Oakland.

I won't claim that he's going to sign with KC, but from an outside objective viewpoint when you look at the various criteria, it's not presumptive at all to think KC wouldn't be at least in the top 5 places he's entertaining- maybe top 3.

As a fan, I am clearly biased in thinking that he helps this club in the exact area that is probably where they are most in need of an upgrade.

If he's truly a top ten NFL ready lineman, then he has the potential to make a serious impact, and being on a winning team as a difference maker can only strengthen his bargaining position for after his rookie contract.
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Old 05-04-2015, 09:41 AM   #176
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I can't believe anyone would feel sorry for this guy??

Police reached out to him the Saturday before the draft to tell him his on again/off again 9 month pregnant girlfriend was gunned down by someone she knew, not to mention his baby boy was trying to hang on for his life at that time. He never got back with police despite them telling his family and agents they needed to speak to him. A rep for Collins didn't get back with police until the day of the draft to let police know he would contact them at some point after the draft.

There is something wrong with that.

Nfl teams private investigators know more than anyone, and him not being selected at all speaks volumes.

Look at what Eagles said even though they need O-line help and didn't select one in draft.

"It wasn't a hard decision," said Philadelphia Eagles coach Chip Kelly, whose team did not draft a lineman. "I don't think we should be talking about draft picks. I think two people have lost their lives, and I think that's a little bit more important than that. We weren't really thinking about the draft at that point in time with him."


Some thought the New Orleans Saints might consider the hometown star, but coach Sean Payton said the case made it too hard to pick him.

"It's unusual, the circumstances surrounding his week," Payton said. "That's something I think that a lot of teams looked at the same way. This is significant. With what we know now, or what we don't know, we'd be hard-pressed to make a decision like that."
There is nothing yet that says he did it. If he's innocent, how can you not feel sorry for a guy who lost out on maybe 10+ mill because of bad timing? Let alone losing a loved one.

Until I see any clear proof that he's guilty, I'll assume he's innocent and cut a really bad break.
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"That's an ongoing situation," Dorsey said on Monday morning. "As I sit here, I think he does have the talent to play the game of football, but there are too many uncertainties right now. Right now I'll just pass until I get some more clarity because I like to get all my facts before I make decisions."
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Meanwhile an alleged rapist gets drafted #1 overall. It's hypocrisy. La'el hasn't been charged with anything at this point.
Winston didn't get charged, either.

Personally, I don't think you should be able to get suspended or blackballed by anybody UNLESS you were ACTUALLY convicted, but that isn't the world we live in unfortunately.

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I know, I know... Grammar Nazi. I blame SNR.

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