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Old 05-03-2015, 07:09 AM  
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La'el Collins will sign as a free agent

According to Gil Brandt on Sirius/XM radio. He will sign with an NFL team and that means he'll pretty much play at a minimum contract.

Sounds like he's talking with investigators early next week.

Go get him, Dorsey!
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Old 05-03-2015, 12:40 PM   #76
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I don't think the Chiefs are by any means the favorite, but....
It's a short list and the Chiefs are on it
The Chiefs are one of his best opportunities to start and also keep that starting job
Even if I don't think the Chiefs' OL coaching is that good, Andy Reid carries a good reputation offensively

They at least have a fighting shot at this because it's such a different situation than free agency, where the attractiveness of your team and contract starts to really matter.
Chiefs would be smart to offer a maxed out guaranteed contract right now with a morals cause.
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Old 05-03-2015, 12:53 PM   #77
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I guess it's possible but then they will probably block any team from signing him as a FA until things have cleared as well.
Would almost guarantee this.
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Old 05-03-2015, 01:22 PM   #78
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then subtract all the teams without a starting spot open at RG


probably at least half the teams?

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If Collins signs with us, I'd like to see us put him in at RT, take the winner between Stephenson/Allen/Sherrod as the backup swing, and cut the rest.

Maybe Jeff Allen sticks around as LG depth if LDT is still really bad.
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Old 05-03-2015, 02:04 PM   #79
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We've already signed 20+ UDFA's. Doesn't look like Collins is in our plans at all.
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Old 05-03-2015, 02:23 PM   #80
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If Collins signs with us, I'd like to see us put him in at RT, take the winner between Stephenson/Allen/Sherrod as the backup swing, and cut the rest.

Maybe Jeff Allen sticks around as LG depth if LDT is still really bad.
Yea, he might win the RT spot. Collins can play both and our RG spot is really wide open. I still think that Stephenson can play a solid RT.

I guess whatever position Collins won, Stephenson could start at the other.

Fisher
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Collins/Stephenson
Stephenson/Collins

Moore,Allen,Sherrod as backups

Maybe Moore wins the start at Center. At least i hope he's that good.

Adding Collins would certainly give us more flexibility. I would feel much better about the right side of our Oline with him on the team.
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Old 05-03-2015, 02:25 PM   #81
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We've already signed 20+ UDFA's. Doesn't look like Collins is in our plans at all.
That's what makes this even more bizarre.

By the time Collins is OK for a look, few if any teams may even have very much udfa cap space to bring him in. He keeps losing money the longer this drags out. I don't think that necessarily counts the chiefs out.
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Old 05-03-2015, 02:28 PM   #82
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That's what makes this even more bizarre.

By the time Collins is OK for a look, few if any teams may even have very much udfa cap space to bring him in. He keeps losing money the longer this drags out. I don't think that necessarily counts the chiefs out.
The longer it takes the less it becomes about money and the more it becomes about a chance to play. That increases the Chiefs' chances imo.
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Old 05-03-2015, 02:49 PM   #83
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I'm surprised someone didn't take a flyer on him in the 7th.
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Old 05-03-2015, 02:50 PM   #84
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That's what makes this even more bizarre.

By the time Collins is OK for a look, few if any teams may even have very much udfa cap space to bring him in. He keeps losing money the longer this drags out. I don't think that necessarily counts the chiefs out.
You could cut some of them
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Old 05-03-2015, 02:53 PM   #85
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I'm surprised someone didn't take a flyer on him in the 7th.
Why? He'd just sit out and get drafted again next year. Pretty sure he's me be dumb enough to do that, or at least dumb enough to listen to whatever his slapstick agent told him to do.
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Old 05-03-2015, 02:53 PM   #86
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You could cut some of them
I think the cap is on signing bonus money. I read on one site it was something like 88k max for all udfa players. I would imagine that signing bonus is guaranteed so I don't think you can just cut deadweight.

I'm learning about all these udfa rules so I could be wrong on that.
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I think the cap is on signing bonus money. I read on one site it was something like 88k max for all udfa players. I would imagine that signing bonus is guaranteed so I don't think you can just cut deadweight.

I'm learning about all these udfa rules so I could be wrong on that.
Right, Nevermind.

Probably have to guarantee his whole deal or something
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Old 05-03-2015, 03:00 PM   #88
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And let's be clear... he needs to start and he needs to play a position where he can be most successful, which is probably going to be at RT. If I'm Collins,
Yep. The sooner he starts the sooner he gets the opportunity to show he is worth the bigger $$ down the road.

But he has yet to talk to the police and the timing of all this just right b4 the draft knowing it would kill his stock is a major tell to me IMO, regardless of their comments of "he is not a suspect" which everyone is a suspect until ruled out. And that major "tell" of timing of all this say's they are looking hard in his direction.
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Once (if) Collins is able to clear his name, I expect him to go to a large market team. Why you may ask?

Simple answer is larger markets are more likely able to secure him lucrative outside endorsements/contracts. All teams are limited on what bonus and guaranteed salary they can offer him via a UDFA nfl contract. The team who can put together a better total compensation package (via lucrative advertising contracts) will likely secure his services. A large market team will be better able to do that then a small market midwest team like the chiefs.
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Once (if) Collins is able to clear his name, I expect him to go to a large market team. Why you may ask?

Simple answer is larger markets are more likely able to secure him lucrative outside endorsements/contracts. All teams are limited on what bonus and guaranteed salary they can offer him via a UDFA nfl contract. The team who can put together a better total compensation package (via lucrative advertising contracts) will likely secure his services. A large market team will be better able to do that then a small market midwest team like the chiefs.
Doubt he's getting a lot of endorsements. Smarter would be to go to a winning franchise with coaching continuity in place and strong probability of starting Week 1. Make sure the second contract is a whopper.
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