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Old 08-01-2014, 07:42 AM  
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What's for dinner? Here's mine... (Part 2)
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Old 12-23-2014, 02:34 PM   #2491
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Old 12-23-2014, 02:36 PM   #2492
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Absolutely...the lower the better, IMO.

I gotta cook at my sisters house or I'd do it lower also...maybe 250...I never tried it THAT low, but I'd Luke to

I might smoke mine next year
That sounds interesting... don't know if I've ever heard of smoked prime rib.

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Old 12-23-2014, 02:38 PM   #2493
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Prime rib doesn't have to be prime grade, that's a misnomer. A standing rib roast, also known as prime rib, is a cut of beef from the primal rib, one of the nine primal cuts of beef.

Prime grade will obviously be better, and I'm jealous. But I'm not about to spend $150 on a rib roast.
Prime rib that isn't prime is just rib roast

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Old 12-23-2014, 02:40 PM   #2494
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Prime rib that isn't prime is just rib roast

Heh
According to the Good Eats episode I watched just last night, this is correct.
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According to the Good Eats episode I watched just last night, this is correct.
Its confusing, but if you go ask for a prime rib most places you'll get a choice standing rib roast , which is technically a prime rib ... Just choice grade

You pretty much have to go to a butcher to get a prime grade prime rib..

I don't splurge a lot...but my mom loves prime rib so my sister and I get a nice prime grade cut twice a year.
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Now I'm a huge supporter of Alton Brown, but I think he's wrong here. It's a preparation of the rib roast, not a grade designation.

A quick Google search even reveals the USDA's Food Standards and Labeling Policy Book agrees (page 154):

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PRIME RIB OF BEEF OR STANDING BEEF RIB ROAST FOR PRIME RIB:

These products do not have to be derived from USDA prime grade beef.
The Iowa Beef Industry Council says it doesn't have to be prime grade:

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Q: What is prime rib?

A: "Prime Rib" is not a specific cut of beef but is actually a preparation method for a Beef Rib Roast. If you know the standard meat roasting method, you can make “Prime Rib” out of several types of Beef Rib Roasts. "Prime" rib does not refer to the grade of beef.
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Q: Here's something that's always confused me: does "Prime Rib" have anything to do with "Prime Grade" beef?

I'm really glad you asked. The answer is no.

The term "Prime Rib" has existed longer than the USDA's beef grading system, which classifies beef according to its potential tenderness and juiciness into various grades. It's called Prime Rib because it's the best part of a given cow. After the USDA began introducing its labeling system denoting quality of beef and included the label "prime" as the highest quality, things became a little confusing.

These days, it's possible to buy a "Prime Rib" that is also "Prime Grade," but it doesn't necessarily have to be so. My local Whole Foods sells "Choice Grade Prime Ribs," for example.
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Its confusing, but if you go ask for a prime rib most places you'll get a choice standing rib roast , which is technically a prime rib ... Just choice grade

You pretty much have to go to a butcher to get a prime grade prime rib..

I don't splurge a lot...but my mom loves prime rib so my sister and I get a nice prime grade cut twice a year.
Yeah, that's the gist of what Alton Brown had to say on the matter as well.

I'm not a baller, so I don't see Prime Rib in my Holiday meal plans just yet.

I'm just doing a boring ol' turkey. Gonna brine that bitch and make some home-made giblet gravy, so I'm sure it will satisfy those in attendance.
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I live near a medium sized town (Santa Rosa) and we really only have 3 full service 'real' butchers

And the third one is pretty new.
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Yeah, that's the gist of what Alton Brown had to say on the matter as well.

I'm not a baller, so I don't see Prime Rib in my Holiday meal plans just yet.

I'm just doing a boring ol' turkey. Gonna brine that bitch and make some home-made giblet gravy, so I'm sure it will satisfy those in attendance.
I actually prefer turkey! Im jealous!

I didn't get turkey thus year, was in palm springs during thanksgiving and we ended up going out to eat.

I'm buying a turkey TOMORROW!
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I actually prefer turkey! Im jealous!

I didn't get turkey thus year, was in palm springs during thanksgiving and we ended up going out to eat.

I'm buying a turkey TOMORROW!
We had turkey at both of the Thanksgivings I attended.

One was cooked to something like 190 degrees or some shit and was just as delicious as you could imagine. That's how they like it. It was some 20+ lb. monster and of course the popper was the instrument of choice for determining when it was done, even though there was a meat thermometer available. I just stepped away from that situation since I don't want to be left in charge of the bird for 30+ people every year.

My family made a breast in a bag and it was actually much more enjoyable than the bird at my wife's dinner. Neither one satisfied my turkey craving.
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I actually prefer turkey! Im jealous!

I didn't get turkey thus year, was in palm springs during thanksgiving and we ended up going out to eat.

I'm buying a turkey TOMORROW!


I like turkey, but it's no comparison (for me) to rib roast.

Actually, last Christmas or Thanksgiving, I made a fresh pasta lasagna, which is one of the better holiday meals we've had. It was awesome.
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The difference in price between prime and choice prime rib I don't think is THAT much, its more of having to go to a butcher / hassle...but I live going to the butcher.

I think in a store a chioice 4 ribber might be about $90-100....maybe $120-130 for prime at your local butcher.

I like supporting mom n pop butchers too.
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The difference in price between prime and choice prime rib I don't think is THAT much, its more of having to go to a butcher / hassle...but I live going to the butcher.



I think in a store a chioice 4 ribber might be about $90-100....maybe $130 for prime at your local butcher.



I like supporting mom n pop butchers too.

The 3-rib, 6 1/2-pound roast I got last night at Publix cost me $49 and change - on sale, $7.29/pound.

The only place I can get prime here in town is Costco. Prime grade ribeye usually run $8-$9/pound more. That would have doubled the cost for me assuming the same price jump for prime grade.
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The difference in price between prime and choice prime rib I don't think is THAT much, its more of having to go to a butcher / hassle...but I live going to the butcher.

I think in a store a chioice 4 ribber might be about $90-100....maybe $130 for prime at your local butcher.

I like supporting mom n pop butchers too.
Yeah, we have a really kick-ass butcher here in the East Bottoms if I was so inclined. The real problem with a rib roast for my/her family is they're all pretty much well done types with any protein. It's pretty bad. I'm some sort of chicken guru because I took over the grill one day at her sister's house and didn't char and dry the shit out of the breasts.

If I spend $100 on a cut of meat, I'm cooking it correctly, so I'd end up eating the whole ****ing thing myself. Even if did decide to go that route and ****ed up the cooking times/whatever and ended up with anything above a medium-rare/medium cook I'd be ungodly amounts of pissed off.

This $16 turkey will do the trick just fine, thank you very much.
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Beef prices have killed me this year. I've been looking at $80+ briskets all year around KC. No thanks. I'm making stuffed shells with homemade sauce for xmas.
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