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Old 07-31-2014, 01:23 PM  
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***Official 2014 STL Cardinals thread part II***
Original thread was getting to large for the board

2011 WS Championship
2012 one win from another WS
2013 two wins from another WS title
2014 Central Division title and NLCS series win (so far)

This is a franchise that has made the postseason 10 times in the last 14 seasons.

Only 1 losing season since 2000.

Reached the World Series 4 times since 2004 and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.

Our new Manager has more post season experience than any other manager in baseball, except the Giants manager.

Made the NLCS 8 times

Three million attendance? Take it to the bank.

60 post season wins since 2004. 20+ wins more than any other team.
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Old 10-04-2014, 11:10 PM   #1201
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I wish every ownership group was as committed.
TV contracts have nothing to do with it.
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Eh, would have been great to have taken 2 out there, but realistically, to come out of there 1-1 is fine.
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I wish every ownership group was as committed.
How does that make everyone better? Now, everyone is even steven but everyone has $226 million payrolls.
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Eh, would have been great to have taken 2 out there, but realistically, to come out of there 1-1 is fine.
That was what we had to do. Take away the home field advantage. Now we have to win at home and we never go back to LA.

LA's middle relief we can get some wins on. Get past their starters and before Jenson. Good template for us to use.
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I could care less if the Dodgers had a two billion dollar payroll. You have to use the resources at your disposal. The objectionable part about the Dodgers are assholes like Adrian Gonzalez who invent controversy out of nothing, and Puig trying to start shit tonight after a ball was a foot from his head.

They're like the Brewers in that regard: a team with too many douchebags on it.
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Pest and Fruit, good game tonight. Hopefully we can lay waste to Korea Town on Monday.
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I could care less if the Dodgers had a two billion dollar payroll. You have to use the resources at your disposal. The objectionable part about the Dodgers are assholes like Adrian Gonzalez who invent controversy out of nothing, and Puig trying to start shit tonight after a ball was a foot from his head.

They're like the Brewers in that regard: a team with too many douchebags on it.
I'd like to see a NFL salary cap but thats never going to happen in baseball.

I don't like not sharing the $2 BILLION cable TV contracts. It will keep widening the gap. But, I'm not up in arms about the payrolls of the big city teams. I've already seen my team win 4 World Series Championships in my lifetime, even got to see one won live with my son. I got no right to bitch. On the karma fan scale, I've got my share of the good times.
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Pest and Fruit, good game tonight. Hopefully we can lay waste to Korea Town on Monday.
Yeah, this series been nuts so far. Too much scoring and barely any. lol

I think Ryu is going to come up big. Plus Dodgers had the best road record like i said earlier in the night!.

NOw its time to get into Chiefs mode!
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Yeah, this series been nuts so far. Too much scoring and barely any. lol

I think Ryu is going to come up big. Plus Dodgers had the best road record like i said earlier in the night!.

NOw its time to get into Chiefs mode!
Congrats to you and Pest on the well deserved win.
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He was never that pitcher. He's Mujica v. 2014.
From Bernies column

Question: with Neshek now in a state of diminishing returns, shouldn't the eighth inning become Carlos Martinez time?


In his last four games, Neshek is 0-2 with a 10.38 ERA. On Aug. 13, his season ERA glistened at 0.72. But since that point, Neshek has worked 19 games, pitched 18.2 innings, and has a 5.30 ERA. That stretch includes 1.45 walks/hits per inning.


Neshek's submarine-style pitches aren't slicing. They're coming in as big as a loaf of bread. This is clearly not the same pitcher; Neshek's highest workload since 2007 has seemingly caught up to him.


Manager Mike Matheny doesn't sound ready to transfer eighth-inning responsibility to Martinez – even though the fresh, power-armed Martinez has a 1.15 ERA and a strikeout rate just under 10 per nine innings over his last 15 games.

“He's going to be right back in there,” Matheny said of Neshek. “We'll throw him right back in that tough spot and know that he's going to make good pitches for us.”

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He doesn't get it. Neshek's not having a rough month because a lot of duck snorts are falling in; he's throwing batting practice. That pitch to Kemp was on a tee, as was everything he threw in Arizona.

FWIW, this is where an argument with someone over-committed to sabermetrics can go badly off the rails. This isn't really "regression", but him showing his ass as a marginal pitcher.
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