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Old 07-31-2014, 01:23 PM  
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***Official 2014 STL Cardinals thread part II***
Original thread was getting to large for the board

2011 WS Championship
2012 one win from another WS
2013 two wins from another WS title
2014 Central Division title and NLCS series win (so far)

This is a franchise that has made the postseason 10 times in the last 14 seasons.

Only 1 losing season since 2000.

Reached the World Series 4 times since 2004 and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.

Our new Manager has more post season experience than any other manager in baseball, except the Giants manager.

Made the NLCS 8 times

Three million attendance? Take it to the bank.

60 post season wins since 2004. 20+ wins more than any other team.
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Old 09-27-2014, 10:40 PM   #631
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If they choke tomorrow the season could come down to Miller and Lackey.
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Old 09-27-2014, 10:47 PM   #632
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If they choke tomorrow the season could come down to Miller and Lackey.
We just couldn't give Adam a day off.
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Of course it would come down to Wainwright to bail us out.
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Of course it was would come down to Wainwright to bail us out.
If we win tomorrow and the NLDS goes 5 games, Waino still starts 2 games in the NLDS on normal rest.
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I'd let Adam throw about 50 pitches.
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I'd let Adam throw about 50 pitches.
He's not playing.
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That's what I was thinking. Wong, Grichuk and Taveras 123. Lolz
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That's what I was thinking. Wong, Grichuk and Taveras 123. Lolz
Kozma, Cruz, Delcasco etc.

I'd like to see them win a game and celebrate but they are celebrating 162 games not the results of this one.
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I'd let Adam throw about 50 pitches.
They certainly faked out everyone. Waino is pitching no matter what. Wonder if that was a deek to get Cole to pitch?
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They certainly faked out everyone. Waino is pitching no matter what. Wonder if that was a deek to get Cole to pitch?
Ya I thought he would of thrown at least a couple innings no matter what. But it probably doesn't matter much either way.
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Wacha/Lackey/Miller for 2 starts in STL

Lackey has a good history of pitching in the playoffs. Wacha was lights out last year and those last 4 innings were damn good. Miller has been spectular in his last 4 starts at BushIII.

Who do you think gets the start in the 2 games at Bush?
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Miller gets Game 3 and Wacha Game 4. With Wacha, you want the pen to be able to go on a day where they wouldn't have to pitch the next day, so that means either Game 2 or 4.

I want no part of Lackey pitching in the playoffs.
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Miller gets Game 3 and Wacha Game 4. With Wacha, you want the pen to be able to go on a day where they wouldn't have to pitch the next day, so that means either Game 2 or 4.

I want no part of Lackey pitching in the playoffs.
I think the main motivation of Mo in the Lackey for Kelly/Craig deal was to move Craig. He thought he was done. That contract was a bunch of dead money. Matheny was going to keep running Craig out there. If that happened, we don't make the playoffs.

Second part was to shake up the clubhouse. They were way too comfortable. We won the division so that worked.

Third part was to get a playoff experienced pitcher.

All that being said................if you don't pitch Lackey was the deal still a good one?
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