***** OFFICIAL 2014 KANSAS FOOTBALL THREAD *****

[ArrowheadHawk]

2014 is a new year with a couple of changes. It's time for this team to turn the corner.

New OC - http://cjonline.com/sports/2013-12-0...ve-coordinator

Pretty Sweet Recruiting Video -

[Braincase]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Is this Charlie's last game if they don't win tomorrow?

Your guess is as good as anybodies', but I don't think so.

1. I don't think Dr. Z is a big fan of firing somebody in the middle of the season.
2. You have to pay him anyway, and on some levels he has been good for the team. (grades, discipline)
3. You put in an interrim head coach, likely the OC or DC, and now you've added work to a coach that probably has enough to deal with.

People can blame Weis all they want, but Weis hasn't missed a tackle, a blocking assignment, fumbled a ball or thrown an interception since he arrived at KU. Our lines, O & D, just aren't getting it done. We're not going to improve until we get the horses.

[TambaBerry]

Originally Posted by Braincase

Your guess is as good as anybodies', but I don't think so.

1. I don't think Dr. Z is a big fan of firing somebody in the middle of the season.
2. You have to pay him anyway, and on some levels he has been good for the team. (grades, discipline)
3. You put in an interrim head coach, likely the OC or DC, and now you've added work to a coach that probably has enough to deal with.

People can blame Weis all they want, but Weis hasn't missed a tackle, a blocking assignment, fumbled a ball or thrown an interception since he arrived at KU. Our lines, O & D, just aren't getting it done. We're not going to improve until we get the horses.

Our team is poorly coached and never ready for the game. Look at kstate talent wise our players are even with them. The difference is Snyder gets his guys prepared to play and coaches them into better football players.

[Braincase]

Originally Posted by dingleberry

Our team is poorly coached and never ready for the game. Look at kstate talent wise our players are even with them. The difference is Snyder gets his guys prepared to play and coaches them into better football players.

I disagree on the talent statement. I think every team in the conference is pulling better players. Even when KU can pull a decent player, half the time the kid can't stay eligible (Dreamius Smith, Trayvon Wrench). The biggest mistake that KU made (Gill) was letting our strength and conditioning coach go, and he immediately ended up at KSU. The new coach is solid (Holsopple), but it takes a couple of years before things can get dialed in.

As long as Kansas is replacing coaches every 2 or 3 years, nothing is going to change.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by Braincase

I disagree on the talent statement. I think every team in the conference is pulling better players. Even when KU can pull a decent player, half the time the kid can't stay eligible (Dreamius Smith, Trayvon Wrench). The biggest mistake that KU made (Gill) was letting our strength and conditioning coach go, and he immediately ended up at KSU. The new coach is solid (Holsopple), but it takes a couple of years before things can get dialed in.

As long as Kansas is replacing coaches every 2 or 3 years, nothing is going to change.

People are going to feel a lot better with a solid win today. There's no reason not to over the team they're playing.

If it's some 17-14 sloppy win I think then we're looking at worst case scenario.

[TambaBerry]

Originally Posted by Braincase

I disagree on the talent statement. I think every team in the conference is pulling better players. Even when KU can pull a decent player, half the time the kid can't stay eligible (Dreamius Smith, Trayvon Wrench). The biggest mistake that KU made (Gill) was letting our strength and conditioning coach go, and he immediately ended up at KSU. The new coach is solid (Holsopple), but it takes a couple of years before things can get dialed in.

As long as Kansas is replacing coaches every 2 or 3 years, nothing is going to change.

Now I know this is just class rankings but we have consistently if not better than equal to kstates recruiting classes. It's the way they're coached up. I mean like how Weis did recruiting at Notre Dame. He did nothing with his own guys but another coach comes in and takes them to a national championship.

Weis is just not a good coach for college. Look at Florida and their offense with the talent they have. Weis was just a bad hire overall. Zenger tried to go with a quick fix instead of a solid coach who he could build upon. It just so happened that it backfired. I don't hate Zenger for that. It's time to move on from Weis and find some young gun to build around.

[Braincase]

Originally Posted by dingleberry

Now I know this is just class rankings but we have consistently if not better than equal to kstates recruiting classes. It's the way they're coached up. I mean like how Weis did recruiting at Notre Dame. He did nothing with his own guys but another coach comes in and takes them to a national championship.

Weis is just not a good coach for college. Look at Florida and their offense with the talent they have. Weis was just a bad hire overall. Zenger tried to go with a quick fix instead of a solid coach who he could build upon. It just so happened that it backfired. I don't hate Zenger for that. It's time to move on from Weis and find some young gun to build around.

I know where you're coming from. We both want the same thing... a competitive KU football team.

[TambaBerry]

Originally Posted by Braincase

I know where you're coming from. We both want the same thing... a competitive KU football team.

Yup, Lew Perkins still pisses me off.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by dingleberry

Our team is poorly coached and never ready for the game. Look at kstate talent wise our players are even with them. The difference is Snyder gets his guys prepared to play and coaches them into better football players.

KU fans tend to overrate their football recruits. And Their football coaches too.

KSU fans tend to underrate their recruits. And their coaches too. Including Snydz.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

KU fans tend to overrate their football recruits. And Their football coaches too.

KSU fans tend to underrate their recruits. And their coaches too. Including Snydz.

Congrats on the dumbest post I've seen here in probably 6 months. You really ratcheted up the Tard level on that one.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Congrats on the dumbest post I've seen here in probably 6 months. You really ratcheted up the Tard level on that one.

Its true.

[Prison Bitch]

In your mind, I'm absolutely sure it is.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

In your mind, I'm absolutely sure it is.

Originally Posted by dingleberry
Our team is poorly coached and never ready for the game. Look at kstate talent wise our players are even with them.The difference is Snyder gets his guys prepared to play and coaches them into better football players.

The "even talent" talking point is very common among the phogistanis. It's untrue and yet it just rolls on. Although BC did disagree today.

And the coaching hire of Charlie Weiss by 'Sirhan'**Zulu was celebrated with images of all those SB rings here at CP. The QB's Charlie transcruited? 5* diamonds.


*Sirhan.. Credit to you for that PB.

[ArrowheadHawk]

The talent may not be even but their is no reason it shouldn't be. KSU doesn't have any recruiting advantages over us besides coaching and that can be fixed.

[Braincase]

Nice start! 74 yard TD run by Pierson to start the game!

[Braincase]

Ground can't cause a fumble. Gotta be overturned.