Chiefs **** YOU SANTOS - Page 10

TLO · 09-14-2014, 04:34 PM

What a worthless POS.

OldSchool · 09-15-2014, 11:12 AM

Lots of cheap vets still out there who are way better than shit-in-your-eyes Santos.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-15-2014, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

Lots of cheap vets still out there who are way better than shit-in-your-eyes Santos.

Pablo · 09-15-2014, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 505 Chief

Was this photo taken before or after Fisher at 1.1?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-15-2014, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pablo

Was this photo taken before or after Fisher at 1.1?

**New World Order** · 09-15-2014, 11:14 AM

Bring back Dave Rayner?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-15-2014, 11:16 AM

Bring back Louie.

Jimmya · 09-15-2014, 11:18 AM

So no matter what the world believes, Andy Reid sticks to his guns just like he did in Philadelphia.

thabear04 · 09-15-2014, 11:56 AM

Bring back Morten Andersen seem like he always wear those old school kickers facemask.

Chief Roundup · 09-16-2014, 10:35 AM

http://arrowheadaddict.com/2014/09/1...t-problem-yet/

Chiefs fans have found themselves a new whipping boy and his name is Cairo Santos.

The rookie kicker has had a shaky start to his career. He’s clanked in a kick from 35-yards and hit the post on a 48-yard attempt in his first game against Tennessee, and botched a 38-yard field goal in Denver last weekend. This is enough for some Chiefs fans to demand his head on a spike. And hey, missing 38-yard field goals is not something you want happening with your kicker.

But here’s a near universal truth about kickers: The first year is almost always an adventure.

Santos is replacing Ryan Succop, who has achieved deity status for some people. Much has been made about Succop being ‘the most accurate kicker in Chiefs history,’ which is a statement that is both 100-percent true and 100-percent misleading. Here are three Succop facts:

- Since his 2009 rookie season Succop ranks 31st out of 33 kickers in field goal percentage (min. 50 FG attempts). This includes Succop’s perfect five-for-five start to this season for Tennessee.

- Only Sebastian Janikowski has a worse field goal percentage than Succop amongst kickers with at least 40 total attempts since 2012. (Again, this includes Succop’s perfect 2014 start.) It should be noted seven of Janikowski’s 12 misses since 2012 have come on kicks beyond 50 yards. Only three of Succop’s 12 misses are from outside of 50 yards.

- In the kickoff game Succop ranked in the middle of the pack amongst all kickoff specialists according to Pro Football Focus’ data. Football Outsider’s data rated the Chiefs as the most efficient special teams unit in 2013 with the only negative efficiency rating coming from Succop’s field goal kicking.

Knowing those facts, now consider Succop was set to be one of the top 10 highest paid kickers in all of football through 2016. One of the worst field goal kickers in football since 2009 was going to make top ten money at his position. Thanks a bunch, Scott Pioli.

Replacing Succop was a must both for performance and for salary cap reasons, so it was the right move for John Dorsey to choose to move on. To replace Succop the Chiefs chose Santos, a former unanimous all-American and Lou Groza winner with exceptional range that estimated to go beyond 60 yards. He’s playing for the rookie league minimum and is under Chiefs control for three years.

And here’s where the first year kicker thing comes in.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-16-2014, 10:36 AM

Yeah, the kicker is the real issue at play here.

**Easy 6** · 09-16-2014, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 505 Chief

Yeah, the kicker is the real issue at play here.

He didnt cost us the game, but that doesnt mean he needs to be kept around.

Any number of guys could be brought in here for pennies on the dollar who're far better.

Crush · 09-16-2014, 11:08 AM

If you have to rely on a kicker, then you have failed as a team. Score touchdowns and the shitty kicker is moot.

TLO · 09-21-2014, 12:54 PM

Just wanted to get this thread ready for the game today.

CapsLockKey · 09-21-2014, 01:05 PM

...and Succop missed two 40 yard FGs so far today. Santos probably isn't the answer, but cutting Succop made sense.

kcxiv · 09-21-2014, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CapsLockKey

...and Succop missed two 40 yard FGs so far today. Santos probably isn't the answer, but cutting Succop made sense.

Santo's is low on the priority list on the amount of sadness the Chiefs have going right now.

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09-16-2014, 10:35 AM	#144
Chief Roundup Admitted Planet Junky Join Date: Oct 2000 Casino cash: $-1358373	http://arrowheadaddict.com/2014/09/1...t-problem-yet/ Chiefs fans have found themselves a new whipping boy and his name is Cairo Santos. The rookie kicker has had a shaky start to his career. He’s clanked in a kick from 35-yards and hit the post on a 48-yard attempt in his first game against Tennessee, and botched a 38-yard field goal in Denver last weekend. This is enough for some Chiefs fans to demand his head on a spike. And hey, missing 38-yard field goals is not something you want happening with your kicker. But here’s a near universal truth about kickers: The first year is almost always an adventure. Santos is replacing Ryan Succop, who has achieved deity status for some people. Much has been made about Succop being ‘the most accurate kicker in Chiefs history,’ which is a statement that is both 100-percent true and 100-percent misleading. Here are three Succop facts: - Since his 2009 rookie season Succop ranks 31st out of 33 kickers in field goal percentage (min. 50 FG attempts). This includes Succop’s perfect five-for-five start to this season for Tennessee. - Only Sebastian Janikowski has a worse field goal percentage than Succop amongst kickers with at least 40 total attempts since 2012. (Again, this includes Succop’s perfect 2014 start.) It should be noted seven of Janikowski’s 12 misses since 2012 have come on kicks beyond 50 yards. Only three of Succop’s 12 misses are from outside of 50 yards. - In the kickoff game Succop ranked in the middle of the pack amongst all kickoff specialists according to Pro Football Focus’ data. Football Outsider’s data rated the Chiefs as the most efficient special teams unit in 2013 with the only negative efficiency rating coming from Succop’s field goal kicking. Knowing those facts, now consider Succop was set to be one of the top 10 highest paid kickers in all of football through 2016. One of the worst field goal kickers in football since 2009 was going to make top ten money at his position. Thanks a bunch, Scott Pioli. Replacing Succop was a must both for performance and for salary cap reasons, so it was the right move for John Dorsey to choose to move on. To replace Succop the Chiefs chose Santos, a former unanimous all-American and Lou Groza winner with exceptional range that estimated to go beyond 60 yards. He’s playing for the rookie league minimum and is under Chiefs control for three years. And here’s where the first year kicker thing comes in. __________________ Fanaticism is nowhere. There is no tenderness or humanity in fanaticism. Last edited by Chief Roundup; 09-16-2014 at 10:50 AM..
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