Phillip Gaines

[Chiefshrink]

I haven't had a chance to thoroughly watch the first 3 pre-season games but did watch all of the GB game. Gaines played horrible against 2nd and 3rd string offenses of GB. Has he played this bad all pre-season ? What is your take on the kid so far ?

[Frosty]

Ok - ignorant fan question here:

Which safety positions did/do Sorenson and Bronson play? What about Coleman and McCray?

Thx

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Frosty

Ok - ignorant fan question here:

Which safety positions did/do Sorenson and Bronson play? What about Coleman and McCray?

Thx

I assume Sorensen will be a SS, but he's bad at everything. He can play either position because he doesn't have a strength.

Bronson was FS. I wanted him around because I saw the same ballhawking ability that Quinton Demps had last year as a 3rd safety on the field, and he wasn't as big of a pussy when he had to make a tackle.

McCray is a FS, so I'm going to assume Coleman is a SS. I know nothing about him, though.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by SNR

I assume Sorensen will be a SS, but he's bad at everything. He can play either position because he doesn't have a strength.

Bronson was FS. I wanted him around because I saw the same ballhawking ability that Quinton Demps had last year as a 3rd safety on the field, and he wasn't as big of a pussy when he had to make a tackle.

McCray is a FS, so I'm going to assume Coleman is a SS. I know nothing about him, though.

So it's possible that Bronson was let go in favor of McCray, not Sorenson?

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Frosty

So it's possible that Bronson was let go in favor of McCray, not Sorenson?

It's not that Bronson was let go in favor of Sorensen.

It's that, if you believe the bullshit being spouted by Chiefzilla, that their decisions are inconsistent.

Sorensen was kept in favor of Jerrod McMillan.
Bronson was let go and replaced by Coleman, essentially.

McMillen sucks.
Coleman sucks even harder.

But chiefzilla is talking out both sides of his ass, because that's apparently what you do with rainbows and lolipops up there.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by milkman

It's not that Bronson was let go in favor of Sorensen.

It's that, if you believe the bullshit being spouted by Chiefzilla, that their decisions are inconsistent.

Sorensen was kept in favor of Jerrod McMillan.
Bronson was let go and replaced by Coleman, essentially.

McMillen sucks.
Coleman sucks even harder.

But chiefzilla is talking out both sides of his ass, because that's apparently what you do with rainbows and lolipops up there.

I pretty much skipped over all that stuff between you and 'Zilla, but - ok.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by SNR

I assume Sorensen will be a SS, but he's bad at everything. He can play either position because he doesn't have a strength.

[Easy 6]

As far as "Chris" Gaines, I'm not at all worried yet... everyone knew he was a raw measurables/skills guy going into this and CB's usually take a few years to develop, CB is truly a skill position and it takes a bit to acquire those skills for most.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by milkman

It's not that Bronson was let go in favor of Sorensen.

It's that, if you believe the bullshit being spouted by Chiefzilla, that their decisions are inconsistent.

Sorensen was kept in favor of Jerrod McMillan.
Bronson was let go and replaced by Coleman, essentially.

McMillen sucks.
Coleman sucks even harder.

But chiefzilla is talking out both sides of his ass, because that's apparently what you do with rainbows and lolipops up there.

That's really interesting that you call me out when this entire board is bitching about picking Sorenson over Bronson.

And I don't know what's so hard about this... Right now, Sorenson is a backup. Coleman is going to play a demps role which means he is going to see the field quite a bit. The Chiefs clearly wanted a guy that could immediately take snaps right away, which is Coleman, and they wanted a developmental guy who would probably see the field and that's Bronson vs. Sorenson. They went with Sorenson. He will probably rarely see the field unless someone gets hurt.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

That's really interesting that you call me out when this entire board is bitching about picking Sorenson over Bronson.

And I don't know what's so hard about this... Right now, Sorenson is a backup. Coleman is going to play a demps role which means he is going to see the field quite a bit. The Chiefs clearly wanted a guy that could immediately take snaps right away, which is Coleman, and they wanted a developmental guy who would probably see the field and that's Bronson vs. Sorenson. They went with Sorenson. He will probably rarely see the field unless someone gets hurt.

Sorensen won't see the field unless Berry gets hurt, right?

No chance that happens.

I mean, it's not like Berry missed most of the preseason because he was hurt.

You're full of shit.
Don't try to sell it here, Rufus.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by SNR

I assume Sorensen will be a SS, but he's bad at everything. He can play either position because he doesn't have a strength.

Bronson was FS. I wanted him around because I saw the same ballhawking ability that Quinton Demps had last year as a 3rd safety on the field, and he wasn't as big of a pussy when he had to make a tackle.

McCray is a FS, so I'm going to assume Coleman is a SS. I know nothing about him, though.

Sorenson didn't have problems tackling in college. The strength listed for him was that he's an excellent student of the game. You do realize that strong safety in a Ryan defense is extremely complicated, right? Arguably the most challenging mental position on the defense.

As you said, he's not a physical freak so he has to make up for it by football smarts. There is no way you can expect him to do that in 2 months. He looked lost and tentative more than anything. Again, I don't think much of him but I certainly don't think he's nearly as bad as he looked in the preseason and think he needs a lot more time to figure his shit out. In the end, Sorenson and Bronson will probably both be garbage, as will McCray and Coleman, so the amount of outrage over which player is less garbagey is kind of amusing.

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Maybe they caught Bronson banging Clark Hunt's wife?

no, clark is into that

(/SNR)

[ToxSocks]

Not sure why everyone is so hung up on Bronson. He made a few nice plays but he also blew some coverages. We have no idea why he was cut, maybe he couldn't fully grasp his assignments.

Hell, Michael Sam had 3 sacks this preseason and that didn't stop him from being cut.

Speaking of which, have the Chiefs announced their PS yet?

[milkman]

And ftr Rufus, the argument between you and I has never been about Sorensen v. Bronson.

It's been about the inconsistency these decisions demonstrate.

I don't give a rat's ass what anyone else is arguing.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by milkman

Sorensen won't see the field unless Berry gets hurt, right?

No chance that happens.

I mean, it's not like Berry missed most of the preseason because he was hurt.

You're full of shit.
Don't try to sell it here, Rufus.

You can swing Abdullah to Strong Safety and put Coleman or McCray at FS. Whoever doesn't play FS will play the Demps role. Basically, if the Chiefs ever find themselves in the spot where they have to rely on Sorenson, they're ****ed anyway. Sorenson is the definition of last resort.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by milkman

And ftr Rufus, the argument between you and I has never been about Sorensen v. Bronson.

It's been about the inconsistency these decisions demonstrate.

I don't give a rat's ass what anyone else is arguing.

There is nothing inconsistent about what they are doing. When young guys aren't ready, they bring in cheap replacements to stopgap. That's better than a year ago when they were paying $2-5M for a stopgap.

This isn't hard. The Chiefs like to put 3 safeties on the field. Sorenson isn't ready to be a 2nd safety let alone a Demps safety. Much as people want to hype the bejeezus out of him, Bronson probably isn't either. They brought in a guy who could stopgap. If the Chiefs don't see any potential whatsoever in Bronson there is no reason to keep him around. If they saw potential, they would have put him on their practice squad and I don't think they did that.

We had absolute garbage at the the back end of the roster and were in danger of that garbage seeing the starting lineup. So we bought a guy for < $1M who isn't very good but has experience to step in right away.