2014-2015 NBA regular season thread.

[Al Bundy]

I will update this when the schedule is announced in a couple of weeks, but I will open with the new uniforms for the Charlotte Hornets below.

Introducing the brand new Charlotte #HornetsUnis! http://t.co/MgHy2DcOTX pic.twitter.com/w59MlUvRgd

— Charlotte Hornets (@hornets) June 19, 2014

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

No. It was. Now he's a face-up guy with half of a face-up game. If he was good at breaking someone down off the dribble now, Miami would have spaced the floor and let him do it with a bench unit while LeBron got a blow, and they would have used it as a secondary offensive option to take bigger players away from the paint and get their foul counts up. Alas, that never happened. He camps from 20 feet out and shoots open jumpers now.

I don't think many people understand the way the NBA works. A number one option on any team is going to score almost 20 points a game just based upon the volume of possessions they use.

Shit, Kevin Martin is a near 20 PPG score for his career and he ****ing blows.

If Bosh is able to be the same efficient face-up player he was for Toronto, he'd be a decent #1 option offensively and could get them to the postseason (45 wins or so and a mid to low seed). But there's no real upside there and there's certanly no guarantee at all he can even be that same player again. From Miami's perspective, the contract makes little sense to me.

[KC_Connection]

I actually read an article a few months back (it was one of those that talked about what a great #3/role player Bosh was for Miami) where Bosh basically said the old Bosh was dead and he was glad for it. So we'll see how it goes, but it likely doesn't end well at all.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Urc Burry

Thompson, Stephenson, and Lowry at least. Wade is a shell of his former self, but calling him top 50 is ridiculous.

Shell Wade isn't better than Lowry. At least not the 2013-2014 version of Lowry (who was one of the top 10-15 players in the NBA). I'd probably take Lance over him too.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Please show me your study and experience where you played back-to-back games and it severely hampered your ability to play basketball. BTW, 54 of 82 games is like over 65% of the games. So he had to play back to back games at some point. I'm sure D Wade could have played more games if they wanted him to, but it was a risk reward situation. The heat weren't' in a playoff hunt race, they were already a lock. There really wasn't any point in risking it.

Back to back nights, dumb ****. Jesus christ.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Hamas has been a dumb ass regarding Wade and Bosh for 4 years now glad to see he is still keeping it up.

Right. Chris "0 points in Game 7 of the Finals" Bosh is a max contract guy and Dwyane Wade doesn't have a three foot fork sticking out of his back.

Your hardon for Wade makes you completely irrational.

Truth is, if those guys were merely 80% of what they were before all three of them joined together Miami likely wins at least three titles. As is, neither Wade nor Bosh was capable of carrying that team for any real stretch of time and Miami rode LeBron so hard that he started sputtering.

Bosh is Ryan Anderson with a worst outside shot and more opportunities for cheapies at this point in his career.

[KC_Connection]

Vince signing with the Grizzlies. Love the signing, it's a great fit. With a healthy Gasol, they're just as good as anybody in the West.

[Al Bundy]

Vince Carter has agreed to a three-year, $12M deal with Memphis, league source tells Yahoo Sports.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) July 12, 2014

[okcchief]

So Bosh didn't sign with Houston after they cleared room? Wow!

I figured Thunder would miss out on Pau. Still hoping for an upgrade at the 2 or a shooter. People are jumping off the bridge here, but I think they forget they were 5 seconds from a game 7 with a one legged Ibaka in the WCF and are just replacing 3 shit players.

Jackson and Lamb will be better.

McGary looks ready to contribute now.

Don't need an all star just a couple of role players. The Perkins contract will just **** them this one last year. Hopefully they can deal him and act by the all star break.

Would have loved to have Gasol, but can't make him want to come here. Lots of good options for him.

Hoping they can just get Miller or Morrow and maybe trade for someone like Dunleavy.

No shooters on this team. It's been a need for 6 years.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by -King-

And what's Wade? Once again, we're talking about a guy that can't even play back to backs. A guy that was supposedly being saved for the playoffs, yet could only manage 15-4-3 in the Finals. What do you think he'd play like if he had to play a whole season? Or if the players on that list were given the same playing schedule he was?

You have Kyrie Irving on your top-20 list yet he has averaged only 60 games per season and is a career 45% shooter (it's declined each year he's played).

You have Rose on your list yet he's played 49 games total in the last 2 years. Yet Wade's the broken down trash.

You have Rondo on your list yet he hasn't played more than 68 games in a year over the last 4 years. He's only played 68 games in the last 2 years combined.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

If you want a list of 50 players better than Wade at this point in their career, here it is, in no specific order:

1. Kawhi Leonard
2. Tony Parker
3. Tim Duncan
4. Kevin Durant
5. Russell Westbrook
6. Serge Ibaka
7. Dwight Howard
8. James Harden
9. Chris Paul
10. Blake Griffin
11. Steph Curry
12. Klay Thompson
13. Damien Lillard
14. LaMarcus Aldridge
15. Boogie Cousins
16. Isaiah Thomas
17. Goran Dragic
18. Eric Bledsoe
19. Marcin Gortat
20. Kevin Love
21. Zach Randolph
22. Mike Conley
23. Marc Gasol
24. Ty Lawson
25. Gordon Heyward
26. Anthony Davis
27. Jrue Holliday
28. Paul George
29. Lance Stephenson
30. LeBron James
31. Chris Bosh
32. Kyle Lowry
33. DeMar Derozan
34. Deron Williams
35. Brook Lopez
36. Joe Johnson
37. John Wall
38. Bradley Beal
39. Al Jefferson
40. Rajon Rondo
41. Kyrie Irving
42. Carmelo Anthony
43. Derrick Rose
44. Joakim Noah
45. Luol Deng
46. Al Horford
47. Paul Milsap
48. Andre Drummond
49. Monta Ellis
50. Dirk

[KC_Connection]

I could maybe only argue against 5-10 of those. And even then, those guys play the full season.

[Miles]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Vince signing with the Grizzlies. Love the signing, it's a great fit. With a healthy Gasol, they're just as good as anybody in the West.

Agreed. Nice signing for them.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I could maybe only argue against 5-10 of those. And even then, those guys play the full season.

And that's not factoring in a lot of the young players and still ascending players. If you were to look at it from the perspective of current and future value, Wade is even further down the list.

[KCCHIEFS27]

If pau goes to SA you might as well sign them up for another nba finals

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by okcchief

So Bosh didn't sign with Houston after they cleared room? Wow!

I figured Thunder would miss out on Pau. Still hoping for an upgrade at the 2 or a shooter. People are jumping off the bridge here, but I think they forget they were 5 seconds from a game 7 with a one legged Ibaka in the WCF and are just replacing 3 shit players.

Jackson and Lamb will be better.

McGary looks ready to contribute now.

Don't need an all star just a couple of role players. The Perkins contract will just **** them this one last year. Hopefully they can deal him and act by the all star break.

Would have loved to have Gasol, but can't make him want to come here. Lots of good options for him.

Hoping they can just get Miller or Morrow and maybe trade for someone like Dunleavy.

No shooters on this team. It's been a need for 6 years.

Who are the Thunder getting for their trade exception?