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Old 12-19-2013, 12:45 PM  
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Old 06-24-2014, 05:32 PM   #6436
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I'm not convinced we "won" the Greinke deal. You are? So far Esobar and Cain have been pretty blasé, until this season. If Cain stays healthy then it changes quite a bit. Also you have to NPV trades. Getting some more WAR in the out years doesn't equal getting it now, nor does it account for the fact Milwaukee has already replaced both (with equal or better players mind you) at the same cost.
In 2012, to go along with his .293 average, Esky had 35 steals and posted a 3.4 WAR. But he did nothing before this season? Sure.

Last season he took a step back and was clearly ignoring the things that made him successful the year before. That seems to have been corrected though.
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Old 06-24-2014, 06:54 PM   #6437
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Better move remains acquiring a bat.

Adrian Beltre is by far the best target for the Royals, so let's hope the Rangers continue to tank.
I would've said Beltre in my prior post, but I figured that would command too much. I thought Prado would be a little more Royals-eske.
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Old 06-25-2014, 04:15 PM   #6438
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I'd rather see us get Zobrist than Prado.

Between the contract and prospect cost, Beltre seems impossible.
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Old 06-25-2014, 04:26 PM   #6439
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Old 06-25-2014, 04:37 PM   #6440
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Still firm on your (Late April 2014) belief that Gordo is an "utter disgrace?"
Oh yes, he was absolutely playing like shit in April. He's been great since.
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Old 06-25-2014, 06:31 PM   #6441
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Oh yes, he was absolutely playing like shit in April. He's been great since.
Wait. In spite of having an 18 WAR over the three previous seasons, he suddenly "sucked" and was an "utter disgrace" after a slow start to the season? Your hyperbolic summations are why no one here takes you seriously.

Even Miguel Cabrera goes through cold streaks, it's baseball, it happens, and being unable to adapt to that must make it frustrating to follow the sport.
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Old 06-25-2014, 06:34 PM   #6442
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Gordon didn't have a very good year last season at the plate IIRC but maybe he did. Fortunately defense always travels.


At any rate we can argue about the hitters all day until we are blue in the face, but try defending our lineup on another teams message board and get feedback from unbiased folks who aren't homers like you seem to be.


The data is clear: our hitting sucks, has sucked, and will suck. Regardless how that hurts your feelings.
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Old 06-25-2014, 06:40 PM   #6443
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It's funny because they had a big debate tonight on MLB Network whether Gordon was a superstar. The analysts... Harold Reynolds and Al Leiter said no. They agreed he's an excellent player but they'd need to see him hit 30 HR first to call him a superstar. Brian Kenny, who usually brings the sabermetric angle... argued maybe he should be considered in that class, he's top 10 in WAR over the last 4 years, and is near the top again this year.
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Old 06-25-2014, 06:42 PM   #6444
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It's funny because they had a big debate tonight on MLB Network whether Gordon was a superstar. The analysts... Harold Reynolds and Al Leiter said no. They agreed he's an excellent player but they'd need to see him hit 30 HR first to call him a superstar. Brian Kenny, who usually brings the sabermetric angle... argued maybe he should be considered in that class, he's top 10 in WAR over the last 4 years, and is near the top again this year.
I like Gordon but I don't see him as a superstar, and given his age, I doubt he gets there since it took him a long time to develop.
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Old 06-25-2014, 07:34 PM   #6445
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Gordon didn't have a very good year last season at the plate IIRC but maybe he did. Fortunately defense always travels.


At any rate we can argue about the hitters all day until we are blue in the face, but try defending our lineup on another teams message board and get feedback from unbiased folks who aren't homers like you seem to be.


The data is clear: our hitting sucks, has sucked, and will suck. Regardless how that hurts your feelings.
I actually agree with PB here. This line up is weak, but with a couple long ball threats, everyone would become exponentially better.

The reason our Babip is so damn weak is because pitchers can nibble and play around because no ones in any danger of making them pay, and therefore no hitters protective. That has a negative snow ball effect on performance and vice versa.
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Old 06-25-2014, 10:11 PM   #6446
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Gordon didn't have a very good year last season at the plate IIRC but maybe he did. Fortunately defense always travels.


At any rate we can argue about the hitters all day until we are blue in the face, but try defending our lineup on another teams message board and get feedback from unbiased folks who aren't homers like you seem to be.


The data is clear: our hitting sucks, has sucked, and will suck. Regardless how that hurts your feelings.
Let's get back on topic. You wanted me to find where you bashed Gordon, Cain and Escobar. In spite of you saying these posts didn't exist at all, I found a post where you bashed all of them within the last six months.

And again, with the truth right in your face, you're proceeding to dodge, shift the subject, and move the goalposts.

I don't know why I'm surprised.
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Old 06-25-2014, 10:21 PM   #6447
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The A's Sean Doolittle's K to walk ratio is 53:1. Let me repeat --- he has struck out 53 batters and walked 1. Hard to believe.
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Old 06-25-2014, 10:27 PM   #6448
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The A's Sean Doolittle's K to walk ratio is 53:1. Let me repeat --- he has struck out 53 batters and walked 1. Hard to believe.
And I thought Koji had a good K/BB.
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The A's Sean Doolittle's K to walk ratio is 53:1. Let me repeat --- he has struck out 53 batters and walked 1. Hard to believe.
In May and June he's pitched 23.1 innings and allowed 0 runs on 5 hits.
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Old 06-25-2014, 10:41 PM   #6450
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The A's Sean Doolittle's K to walk ratio is 53:1. Let me repeat --- he has struck out 53 batters and walked 1. Hard to believe.
Sounds like he's been doing..............a lot.
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