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duncan_idaho · 09:30 AM

With my 6,000th post on ChiefsPlanet (it only took me 12 years to get here), I bring you: The 2014 Kansas City Royals Repository.

To be discussed here: All things Royals, as they attempt to post another winning season and make it back to the playoffs for the first time since 1985.

25-man RosterAvailable HERE

AL Central Standings:

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Duncan's Top 20 Royals Prospects

Spoiler!

duncan_idaho · 06-02-2014, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

Aaron Brooks, Blake Wood, Wilking Rodriguez????

The **** happened to our system?

The 2009, 2010 and 2011 drafts have produced very little value, and the 12 and 13 classes are still a little a bit away.

There's some intriguing LA talent at AA (Cuthbert, Calixte, Bonifacio) but none of them are really forcing the issue at this point. Everything else is at A+ or lower.

It seems that Moore is trying to bunch "waves" of prospects about 4-5 years apart. If one of those waves doesn't produce, you're left trying to patch things in between, because you have little of value in between the waves.

**DeezNutz** · 06-02-2014, 02:30 PM

Blake Wood apparently still smells of Georgia, and this is why DM wanted him back.

Waves of talent to DM are ripples on a pond to every other competent GM.

duncan_idaho · 06-02-2014, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

To be fair that is essentially would be the #7th starting pitcher. But that type of shit does happen around MLB though.

Organizational depth chart to start the year was:

Shields
Vargas
Guthrie
Ventura
Chen
Duffy
Zimmer
Dwyer
Lamb
Brooks

Ventura and Chen and Zimmer all getting hurt/delayed moves a guy like Brooks up the chart quite a bit, as does the basically complete suckage of John "I'm the one in 100 that doesn't make it back" Lamb and Chris Dwyer.

**DeezNutz** · 06-02-2014, 02:34 PM

Glad we never tried to move any of those pitching prospects. First chance we get that Zimmer shows he's healthy, please trade him.

Immediately.

**ChiTown** · 06-02-2014, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

To be fair that is essentially would be the #7th starting pitcher. But that type of shit does happen around MLB though.

Keep telling yourself that. That's been the Royals Mantra.................for the last 28+ years.

WhawhaWhat · 06-02-2014, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Glad we never tried to move any of those pitching prospects. First chance we get that Zimmer shows he's healthy, please trade him.

Immediately.

Who is trading for Zimmer at this point?

"You say he has shoulder and elbow problems? Sign me up!"

ChiefsCountry · 06-02-2014, 02:45 PM

Brooks was top 10 in ERA in the PCL and was 4-1. Everything looked okay what he was doing in Triple A. Emergency starter you normally call somebody up and that is what he did. Just got his shit pushed in. Sucks but that is baseball. Hell even if Zimmer was healthy I don't think they would have burned one start and service time for an emergency start.

**DeezNutz** · 06-02-2014, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Who is trading for Zimmer at this point?

"You say he has shoulder and elbow problems? Sign me up!"

Probably no one.

**gblowfish** · 06-02-2014, 02:58 PM

I watched Ororizzi pitch the other night vs Boston. He looked pretty good. He'd be a good #4 guy in our rotation right about now. Too bad we had to give him up.

ChiefsCountry · 06-02-2014, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

I watched Ororizzi pitch the other night vs Boston. He looked pretty good. He'd be a good #4 guy in our rotation right about now. Too bad we had to give him up.

I like our #1 pitcher and the 8th inning relief pitcher better.

Mama Hip Rockets · 06-02-2014, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

I watched Ororizzi pitch the other night vs Boston. He looked pretty good. He'd be a good #4 guy in our rotation right about now. Too bad we had to give him up.

He has a 5.13 ERA.

C3HIEF3S · 06-02-2014, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

I watched Ororizzi pitch the other night vs Boston. He looked pretty good. He'd be a good #4 guy in our rotation right about now. Too bad we had to give him up.

Yeah he did pitch well May 25 vs Boston. 6 IP 4H 1 ER 5 SO.

His next start, also vs Boston, on May 31 he looked like he has the rest of the year. 3.1 IP 6H 5 ER pushing his ERA for the season up to a cool 5.13.

**DeezNutz** · 06-02-2014, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

I like our #1 pitcher and the 8th inning relief pitcher better.

You got a little bit of Royals True Fan in you? It's OK, we're here to help.

ChiefsCountry · 06-02-2014, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

You got a little bit of Royals True Fan in you? It's OK, we're here to help.

No I actually hated the Shields/Myers trade because I didn't want to give up Myers.

**DeezNutz** · 06-02-2014, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

No I actually hated the Shields/Myers trade because I didn't want to give up Myers.

Careful here. Don't offend DM.

12-19-2013, 12:45 PM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-1879692	2014 Royals Repository With my 6,000th post on ChiefsPlanet (it only took me 12 years to get here), I bring you: The 2014 Kansas City Royals Repository. To be discussed here: All things Royals, as they attempt to post another winning season and make it back to the playoffs for the first time since 1985. 25-man RosterAvailable HERE AL Central Standings: Link Duncan's Top 20 Royals Prospects Spoiler! 1) 3B Hunter Dozier ETA: 2015 Dozier started slowly at A+ Wilmington but caught fire in May and June, earning a mid-season promotion to AA Northwest Arkansas. Big, strong kid with good plate discipline skills and solid power who projects to be an above-average glove at 3B with solid power. 2) SS Raul (Adalberto) Mondesi ETA: 2017 Mondesis is the opposite of Dozier…. Started red-hot at Wilmington before back spasms derailed him for a few weeks and hasn’t gotten it going since coming back. Scouting reports have been great – defense and speed both improved over the offseason. Still a chance to be an elite SS, with 40 SB speed, plus glove, .300 average and some pop. 3) LHP Sean Manaea \| ETA: 2015 Scouting reports outperform the stat line so far. Missing a ton of bats at A+ but not preventing runs like you’d expect to see. Needs to work deeper into games (gradually working about an inning deeper/month so far this year) and improve control. Walks are biggest concern right now, but could be elevated due to work on extra off-speed offerings. Still has No. 2 starter potential, could be higher if the great control he exhibited before his hip surgery eventually comes back. 4) RHP Kyle Zimmer\| ETA: 2015 Should be NO. 1 on the list and is probably the Royals most VALUABLE current prospect, but he hasn’t thrown a ball in 4-5 weeks and had only been throwing for 2-3 weeks when he was shut down then. 5) LHP Brandon Finnegan\| ETA: 2015 Top 2014 draft choice is an undersized lefty who will start at A+ Wilmington after anchoring CWS run for TCU. Good fastball, better slider, change that needs work to stick as a starter, but if he sticks, No. 2/No. 3 starter upside. Likely a top 10 or even top 5 pick if he doesn’t miss 1 start in the middle of the college season as a precautionary move. 6) RHP Miguel Almonte\| ETA: 2016 Have heard some say Almonte is more advanced as a pitcher at A+ than Yordano Ventura was (comparison because both were cheap signs out of Latin America). Really advanced changeup and a curve that is working out well (where the ‘more advanced’ comment comes from). Fastball velo is good but not great – 92-94. Like Manaea, working on his second-best offspeed pitch and leaning less on his bread-and butter (changeup), which has hurt his numbers a bit. 7) RHP Christian Binford 2017 Reverse case of “don’t just scout stat lines.” Based on his stats at A+, you’d think he was an elite prospect, but there are questions about Binford’s stuff playing up at higher levels. Tall righty with great command of fastball, slider and a good and still developing changeup. None of those pitches profiles as better than average, though, limiting his likely upside to back-end rotation guy. 8) SS Orlando Calixte\| ETA: 2016 I still like him more than many. Good combination of SS/MI skills and power. Started hot at NWA but in a slump at moment. 9)LHP Foster Griffin \| ETA: 2019 Tall, projectable lefty taken in 2014 draft. Viewed as a great value in the sandwich round and probably would have been KC’s pick at No. 17 if Finnegan hadn’t fallen. High school arm who is going to take a while to develop. 10) RF Jorge Bonifacio\| ETA: 2016 Hasn’t hit as well as expected in his second go-round at AA NWA. Power still sapped, and average skills have dipped. Once looked like he might be an option in RF at some point in 2015, now looks like 2016 is optimistic. Still young for his level. 11) 3B/2B Cheslor Cuthbert\| ETA: 2016 Cuthbert has had better luck at NWA than Boni and is also extremely young for level. HE’s been moved to 2B since Dozier was promoted, which could put a new spin on Cuthbert’s prospects. If he sticks at 2B, bat plays up much better. Good OBP/plate discipline and solid power, but needs to continue improving contact skills 12) C Chase Vallot\| ETA: 2020 Young (just 17) C with tremendous power. One of the top prep bats and a great value for KC where it got him. If he sticks at C, expect him to move slowly, but the bat may force the issue (or force him to another position). 13) C Zane Evans\| ETA: 2017 GA Tech product has handled Wilmington better than most RH bats and probably is in line for a promotion to NWA sometime soon. Decent pop, decent skills behind the plate. Could be a nice reserve catcher. 14) RHP Scott Blewett\| ETA: 2020 Tall, projectable righty with a fresh arm but some injury concerns on his shoulder that slipped him out of Round 1 of MLB draft. Big time potential. 15) CF Bubba Starling \| ETA: Bubba Starling has great tools. Bubba Starling (still) can’t hit. That’s all I have to say about that. 16) 1B Samir Duenez\| ETA: I still like him, even though the attempt to run him through full season ball at 17 did not go well. 17)LF/RF Elier Hernandez\| ETA: Hernandez still pops up in scouting reports but still is very raw and toolsy. 18) RHP Pedro Fernandez\| ETA: Pop-up player on the same track as Ventura and Almonte. Similar signing, similar profile. One to watch over next few years. 19) SS Marten Gasparini\| ETA: Royals’ most expensive international signing likely moves to CF eventually, but his speed and athleticism are intriguing abilities. Early reports from complex ball are very positive on him. 20) RHP Niklas Stephenson\| ETA: Interesting pop-up candidate who found 10 more MPH on his fastball by using a weighted ball during workouts over the winter. Now sits mid-90s with fastball and is dominating at rookie ball (after having an ERA over 8 there a year ago). Likely promoted to a higher challenge soon. Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-01-2014 at 09:30 AM..
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06-02-2014, 02:45 PM	#5482
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1341248	Brooks was top 10 in ERA in the PCL and was 4-1. Everything looked okay what he was doing in Triple A. Emergency starter you normally call somebody up and that is what he did. Just got his shit pushed in. Sucks but that is baseball. Hell even if Zimmer was healthy I don't think they would have burned one start and service time for an emergency start. Last edited by ChiefsCountry; 06-02-2014 at 02:52 PM..
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06-02-2014, 02:58 PM	#5484
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $16896178 VARSITY	I watched Ororizzi pitch the other night vs Boston. He looked pretty good. He'd be a good #4 guy in our rotation right about now. Too bad we had to give him up.
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