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duncan_idaho · 09:30 AM

With my 6,000th post on ChiefsPlanet (it only took me 12 years to get here), I bring you: The 2014 Kansas City Royals Repository.

To be discussed here: All things Royals, as they attempt to post another winning season and make it back to the playoffs for the first time since 1985.

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Cephalic Trauma · 03-28-2014, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Yeah I know that, but I don't get people who freak out about something like this. The other day Dyson played DH. I just don't see anything wrong with freaky spring training lineups.

Dyson will never, ever DH in a real game, whereas escobar will probably bat in the second spot on opening day.

CaliforniaChief · 03-28-2014, 04:33 PM

I'm too lazy to post them all, but AMC (my new moniker for McCullough) just posted a series of tweets on a story about Yost coming back to Milwaukee to drop off a car he had from the last year of his contract. Pretty awesome.

Prison Bitch · 03-28-2014, 04:39 PM

Might be a good time to ask why nobody is talking about DM's role in Escobar batting 2nd, since Escobar isn't a guy who should probably even be on the team in the first place. If DM puts him on the roster, Yost can make these dumb decisions. No?

duncan_idaho · 03-28-2014, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Might be a good time to ask why nobody is talking about DM's role in Escobar batting 2nd, since Escobar isn't a guy who should probably even be on the team in the first place. If DM puts him on the roster, Yost can make these dumb decisions. No?

If Escobar hits as poorly this year as he did last year, you can beat this drum all you want.

But considering the way he plays shortstop and the type of hitting he has shown he is capable of (which is not star level but is also not completely incompetent like he was from May 1 on in 2013), it's premature.

Alcides Escobar absolutely deserves a spot on an MLB roster at this point in time. Even coming off of last season, he's a better SS than many teams are trotting out.

-King- · 03-28-2014, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Might be a good time to ask why nobody is talking about DM's role in Escobar batting 2nd, since Escobar isn't a guy who should probably even be on the team in the first place. If DM puts him on the roster, Yost can make these dumb decisions. No?

You have some very stupid takes in this thread.

Sure-Oz · 03-28-2014, 05:04 PM

@jazayerli: If Ned Yost doesn't want to mess with his lineup order, fine. Bat Lorenzo Cain 2nd. Instead of, you know, the worst hitter in MLB last year.

Prison Bitch · 03-28-2014, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

You have some very stupid takes in this thread.

I base all my opinions on analytics, which is probably why you understand almost none of it.

stonedstooge · 03-28-2014, 05:58 PM

Escobar's defense makes him worth watching

duncan_idaho · 03-28-2014, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge

Escobar's defense makes him worth watching

from a roster/team construction standpoint, Escobar's defense makes him worth STARTING as long as he posts a .260/.300/.375 line.

**alnorth** · 03-28-2014, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

from a roster/team construction standpoint, Escobar's defense makes him worth STARTING as long as he posts a .260/.300/.375 line.

huh? He was worth 6 WAR 2011-12, and had just one bad year. Yeah, he's worth starting.

edit: we also have him signed through 2015 and 2 options after that.

edit2: oh, you were responding to PB. Never mind.

stonedstooge · 03-28-2014, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

from a roster/team construction standpoint, Escobar's defense makes him worth STARTING as long as he posts a .260/.300/.375 line.

I know a lot of people on here and in the news have talked about Escobar bulking up. I'm not sure, but to me he looks HEALTHY. I'm hoping for a big year from him. He didn't look well all of last year.

Prison Bitch · 03-28-2014, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

huh? He was worth 6 WAR 2011-12, and had just one bad year. Yeah, he's worth starting.

It was 3.9. And fell to 1.1 last year. But forget the past because as you probably know: it's irrelevant. OLIVER projects him to fall off the cliff and turn into a massive pumpkin. 0.1 WAR combined the next two seasons with horrendous wRC+ numbers.

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...10&position=SS

Prison Bitch · 03-28-2014, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

from a roster/team construction standpoint, Escobar's defense makes him worth STARTING as long as he posts a .260/.300/.375 line.

True, but it's very doubtful he'll produce that. He's become almost a carbon copy of Chris Getz in every way.

**alnorth** · 03-28-2014, 06:16 PM

Just read McCullough's story on this. If Infante goes on the DL, the KC media appears to be ready to revolt.

stonedstooge · 03-28-2014, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

True, but it's very doubtful he'll produce that. He's become almost a carbon copy of Chris Getz in every way.

Except he may have the strongest arm of any shortstop in the league. Getz

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duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-1889692	2014 Royals Repository With my 6,000th post on ChiefsPlanet (it only took me 12 years to get here), I bring you: The 2014 Kansas City Royals Repository. To be discussed here: All things Royals, as they attempt to post another winning season and make it back to the playoffs for the first time since 1985. 25-man RosterAvailable HERE AL Central Standings: Link Duncan's Top 20 Royals Prospects Spoiler! 1) 3B Hunter Dozier ETA: 2015 Dozier started slowly at A+ Wilmington but caught fire in May and June, earning a mid-season promotion to AA Northwest Arkansas. Big, strong kid with good plate discipline skills and solid power who projects to be an above-average glove at 3B with solid power. 2) SS Raul (Adalberto) Mondesi ETA: 2017 Mondesis is the opposite of Dozier…. Started red-hot at Wilmington before back spasms derailed him for a few weeks and hasn’t gotten it going since coming back. Scouting reports have been great – defense and speed both improved over the offseason. Still a chance to be an elite SS, with 40 SB speed, plus glove, .300 average and some pop. 3) LHP Sean Manaea \| ETA: 2015 Scouting reports outperform the stat line so far. Missing a ton of bats at A+ but not preventing runs like you’d expect to see. Needs to work deeper into games (gradually working about an inning deeper/month so far this year) and improve control. Walks are biggest concern right now, but could be elevated due to work on extra off-speed offerings. Still has No. 2 starter potential, could be higher if the great control he exhibited before his hip surgery eventually comes back. 4) RHP Kyle Zimmer\| ETA: 2015 Should be NO. 1 on the list and is probably the Royals most VALUABLE current prospect, but he hasn’t thrown a ball in 4-5 weeks and had only been throwing for 2-3 weeks when he was shut down then. 5) LHP Brandon Finnegan\| ETA: 2015 Top 2014 draft choice is an undersized lefty who will start at A+ Wilmington after anchoring CWS run for TCU. Good fastball, better slider, change that needs work to stick as a starter, but if he sticks, No. 2/No. 3 starter upside. Likely a top 10 or even top 5 pick if he doesn’t miss 1 start in the middle of the college season as a precautionary move. 6) RHP Miguel Almonte\| ETA: 2016 Have heard some say Almonte is more advanced as a pitcher at A+ than Yordano Ventura was (comparison because both were cheap signs out of Latin America). Really advanced changeup and a curve that is working out well (where the ‘more advanced’ comment comes from). Fastball velo is good but not great – 92-94. Like Manaea, working on his second-best offspeed pitch and leaning less on his bread-and butter (changeup), which has hurt his numbers a bit. 7) RHP Christian Binford 2017 Reverse case of “don’t just scout stat lines.” Based on his stats at A+, you’d think he was an elite prospect, but there are questions about Binford’s stuff playing up at higher levels. Tall righty with great command of fastball, slider and a good and still developing changeup. None of those pitches profiles as better than average, though, limiting his likely upside to back-end rotation guy. 8) SS Orlando Calixte\| ETA: 2016 I still like him more than many. Good combination of SS/MI skills and power. Started hot at NWA but in a slump at moment. 9)LHP Foster Griffin \| ETA: 2019 Tall, projectable lefty taken in 2014 draft. Viewed as a great value in the sandwich round and probably would have been KC’s pick at No. 17 if Finnegan hadn’t fallen. High school arm who is going to take a while to develop. 10) RF Jorge Bonifacio\| ETA: 2016 Hasn’t hit as well as expected in his second go-round at AA NWA. Power still sapped, and average skills have dipped. Once looked like he might be an option in RF at some point in 2015, now looks like 2016 is optimistic. Still young for his level. 11) 3B/2B Cheslor Cuthbert\| ETA: 2016 Cuthbert has had better luck at NWA than Boni and is also extremely young for level. HE’s been moved to 2B since Dozier was promoted, which could put a new spin on Cuthbert’s prospects. If he sticks at 2B, bat plays up much better. Good OBP/plate discipline and solid power, but needs to continue improving contact skills 12) C Chase Vallot\| ETA: 2020 Young (just 17) C with tremendous power. One of the top prep bats and a great value for KC where it got him. If he sticks at C, expect him to move slowly, but the bat may force the issue (or force him to another position). 13) C Zane Evans\| ETA: 2017 GA Tech product has handled Wilmington better than most RH bats and probably is in line for a promotion to NWA sometime soon. Decent pop, decent skills behind the plate. Could be a nice reserve catcher. 14) RHP Scott Blewett\| ETA: 2020 Tall, projectable righty with a fresh arm but some injury concerns on his shoulder that slipped him out of Round 1 of MLB draft. Big time potential. 15) CF Bubba Starling \| ETA: Bubba Starling has great tools. Bubba Starling (still) can’t hit. That’s all I have to say about that. 16) 1B Samir Duenez\| ETA: I still like him, even though the attempt to run him through full season ball at 17 did not go well. 17)LF/RF Elier Hernandez\| ETA: Hernandez still pops up in scouting reports but still is very raw and toolsy. 18) RHP Pedro Fernandez\| ETA: Pop-up player on the same track as Ventura and Almonte. Similar signing, similar profile. One to watch over next few years. 19) SS Marten Gasparini\| ETA: Royals’ most expensive international signing likely moves to CF eventually, but his speed and athleticism are intriguing abilities. Early reports from complex ball are very positive on him. 20) RHP Niklas Stephenson\| ETA: Interesting pop-up candidate who found 10 more MPH on his fastball by using a weighted ball during workouts over the winter. Now sits mid-90s with fastball and is dominating at rookie ball (after having an ERA over 8 there a year ago). Likely promoted to a higher challenge soon. Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-01-2014 at 09:30 AM..
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03-28-2014, 04:39 PM	#2928
Prison Bitch Rabbi Goldmann Join Date: Nov 2012 Casino cash: $5450159	Might be a good time to ask why nobody is talking about DM's role in Escobar batting 2nd, since Escobar isn't a guy who should probably even be on the team in the first place. If DM puts him on the roster, Yost can make these dumb decisions. No?
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03-28-2014, 06:16 PM	#2939
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57156239	Just read McCullough's story on this. If Infante goes on the DL, the KC media appears to be ready to revolt. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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