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duncan_idaho · 09:30 AM

With my 6,000th post on ChiefsPlanet (it only took me 12 years to get here), I bring you: The 2014 Kansas City Royals Repository.

To be discussed here: All things Royals, as they attempt to post another winning season and make it back to the playoffs for the first time since 1985.

25-man RosterAvailable HERE

AL Central Standings:

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Duncan's Top 20 Royals Prospects

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**alnorth** · 03-27-2014, 05:43 PM

In today's dollars that contract looks bad, but its hard to judge because the new national TV deal should be causing some inflation anyway. I think we'll know better in 2 or 3 years how expensive that contract is.

Pepe Silvia · 03-27-2014, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

I made waves last winter when I claimed I would eat a bowl of my own sh*t if Sal Perez cracked 30 HR as Yost claimed was possible. (I don't know if he even ended up halfway there).

I will make the same offer this year. If we win the AL and go to the World Series, not only will I eat a bowl of my own sick. I will ask Duncan and Al North and every other long suffering Royals fan to chip in and make it a true bed-pan. I ain't even playin.

You're certainly risking hepatitis.

**alnorth** · 03-27-2014, 05:45 PM

If thats the new market for a 33-year old Cabrera, then Mike Trout is going to be filthy rich when he hits free agency.

Archie F. Swin · 03-27-2014, 05:49 PM

in 2003 the Royals were hitting the ball well

with 836 (4th in AL) runs total and 162 Home runs (7th)

pitching was mediocre with 867 runs allowed and a team ERA of 5.05 (12th among 14 AL teams)

in 2013 the Royals scored 646 runs (11th in AL) 112 home runs (15th in AL)
601 runs allowed with a team ERA of 3.45 (1st in AL)

**alnorth** · 03-27-2014, 05:59 PM

Miguel Cabrera is highly respected/appreciated, but officials with other teams are appalled by Detroit decision to give him that many years.
— Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) March 27, 2014

Haven't heard as much disgust over a contract from rival execs since the Jayson Werth contract. Industry is in shock over the Cabrera deal.
— Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) March 27, 2014

**alnorth** · 03-27-2014, 06:05 PM

The Cabrera deal has two option years each worth $30MM. They are club options, but if Cabrera stays healthy they could vest and transform into player options.

HAHAHAHAHA, what?!? They might be on the hook for his age 41 and 42 seasons?

This contract is hilariously awful. The only explanation is the Tigers old eccentric billionaire does not expect to be alive in 10 years.

Cephalic Trauma · 03-27-2014, 06:05 PM

Jerry Dipoto is pissed.

tk13 · 03-27-2014, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma

Jerry Dipoto is pissed.

He knows what's coming. There's no avoiding it.

mr. tegu · 03-27-2014, 06:11 PM

Does a deal like this anger Scherzer even more?

**alnorth** · 03-27-2014, 06:12 PM

If I was Cabrera's agent, an 8-year extension with 31 AAV plus 2 option years that can vest at 30 AAV would be my "shoot for the moon" initial high-ball offer to the Tigers that I'd never expect to get, and be prepared to negotiate down from.

I guess thats why I'm not an agent.

mr. tegu · 03-27-2014, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

If I was Cabrera's agent, an 8-year extension with 31 AAV plus 2 option years that can vest at 30 AAV would be my "shoot for the moon" initial high-ball offer to the Tigers that I'd never expect to get, and be prepared to negotiate down from.

I guess thats why I'm not an agent.

Imagine what the out of this world number was.

**alnorth** · 03-27-2014, 06:30 PM

Nori took the boys out for some sushi tonight in Milwaukee! pic.twitter.com/jbhSSEvZQj
— Eric Hosmer (@TheRealHos35) March 28, 2014

WhawhaWhat · 03-27-2014, 06:33 PM

Breaking News: Little Caesars now offering large cheese/pepperoni pizzas at $6. #MiguelCabreraExtension
— Jeremy Guthrie (@TheRealJGuts) March 27, 2014

**lewdog** · 03-27-2014, 08:57 PM

Another thing that has been mentioned but I'll say it again....no way in hell we can go two seasons in a row with as few injuries as we had in 2013. And **** me having one of our infielders go down and having Valencia or bum Gio have to play long stints.

We lead the league in 2013 is least days by players on the DL. Not a single MLB pitcher went on the DL once the season started. That's ****ing absurd and won't be repeated.

So we lead the AL in ERA and had the fewest injuries and still didn't make the playoffs? I'm not trying to be a downer but I just don't see how people can be so sure that we will match or exceed our 2013 win total.

Below are statistics to show the above facts about injuries.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2013-...ist-team-data/

nychief · 03-27-2014, 09:31 PM

It is a myth that we were injury free...Cain, Paulino, Duffy 's set backs.

[QUOTE=lewdog;10521595]Another thing that has been mentioned but I'll say it again....no way in hell we can go two seasons in a row with as few injuries as we had in 2013. And **** me having one of our infielders go down and having Valencia or bum Gio have to play long stints.

We lead the league in 2013 is least days by players on the DL. Not a single MLB pitcher went on the DL once the season started. That's ****ing absurd and won't be repeated.

So we lead the AL in ERA and had the fewest injuries and still didn't make the playoffs? I'm not trying to be a downer but I just don't see how people can be so sure that we will match or exceed our 2013 win total.

Below are statistics to show the above facts about injuries.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2013-...ist-team-data/[/QUOTE]

12-19-2013, 12:45 PM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-1869692	2014 Royals Repository With my 6,000th post on ChiefsPlanet (it only took me 12 years to get here), I bring you: The 2014 Kansas City Royals Repository. To be discussed here: All things Royals, as they attempt to post another winning season and make it back to the playoffs for the first time since 1985. 25-man RosterAvailable HERE AL Central Standings: Link Duncan's Top 20 Royals Prospects Spoiler! 1) 3B Hunter Dozier ETA: 2015 Dozier started slowly at A+ Wilmington but caught fire in May and June, earning a mid-season promotion to AA Northwest Arkansas. Big, strong kid with good plate discipline skills and solid power who projects to be an above-average glove at 3B with solid power. 2) SS Raul (Adalberto) Mondesi ETA: 2017 Mondesis is the opposite of Dozier…. Started red-hot at Wilmington before back spasms derailed him for a few weeks and hasn’t gotten it going since coming back. Scouting reports have been great – defense and speed both improved over the offseason. Still a chance to be an elite SS, with 40 SB speed, plus glove, .300 average and some pop. 3) LHP Sean Manaea \| ETA: 2015 Scouting reports outperform the stat line so far. Missing a ton of bats at A+ but not preventing runs like you’d expect to see. Needs to work deeper into games (gradually working about an inning deeper/month so far this year) and improve control. Walks are biggest concern right now, but could be elevated due to work on extra off-speed offerings. Still has No. 2 starter potential, could be higher if the great control he exhibited before his hip surgery eventually comes back. 4) RHP Kyle Zimmer\| ETA: 2015 Should be NO. 1 on the list and is probably the Royals most VALUABLE current prospect, but he hasn’t thrown a ball in 4-5 weeks and had only been throwing for 2-3 weeks when he was shut down then. 5) LHP Brandon Finnegan\| ETA: 2015 Top 2014 draft choice is an undersized lefty who will start at A+ Wilmington after anchoring CWS run for TCU. Good fastball, better slider, change that needs work to stick as a starter, but if he sticks, No. 2/No. 3 starter upside. Likely a top 10 or even top 5 pick if he doesn’t miss 1 start in the middle of the college season as a precautionary move. 6) RHP Miguel Almonte\| ETA: 2016 Have heard some say Almonte is more advanced as a pitcher at A+ than Yordano Ventura was (comparison because both were cheap signs out of Latin America). Really advanced changeup and a curve that is working out well (where the ‘more advanced’ comment comes from). Fastball velo is good but not great – 92-94. Like Manaea, working on his second-best offspeed pitch and leaning less on his bread-and butter (changeup), which has hurt his numbers a bit. 7) RHP Christian Binford 2017 Reverse case of “don’t just scout stat lines.” Based on his stats at A+, you’d think he was an elite prospect, but there are questions about Binford’s stuff playing up at higher levels. Tall righty with great command of fastball, slider and a good and still developing changeup. None of those pitches profiles as better than average, though, limiting his likely upside to back-end rotation guy. 8) SS Orlando Calixte\| ETA: 2016 I still like him more than many. Good combination of SS/MI skills and power. Started hot at NWA but in a slump at moment. 9)LHP Foster Griffin \| ETA: 2019 Tall, projectable lefty taken in 2014 draft. Viewed as a great value in the sandwich round and probably would have been KC’s pick at No. 17 if Finnegan hadn’t fallen. High school arm who is going to take a while to develop. 10) RF Jorge Bonifacio\| ETA: 2016 Hasn’t hit as well as expected in his second go-round at AA NWA. Power still sapped, and average skills have dipped. Once looked like he might be an option in RF at some point in 2015, now looks like 2016 is optimistic. Still young for his level. 11) 3B/2B Cheslor Cuthbert\| ETA: 2016 Cuthbert has had better luck at NWA than Boni and is also extremely young for level. HE’s been moved to 2B since Dozier was promoted, which could put a new spin on Cuthbert’s prospects. If he sticks at 2B, bat plays up much better. Good OBP/plate discipline and solid power, but needs to continue improving contact skills 12) C Chase Vallot\| ETA: 2020 Young (just 17) C with tremendous power. One of the top prep bats and a great value for KC where it got him. If he sticks at C, expect him to move slowly, but the bat may force the issue (or force him to another position). 13) C Zane Evans\| ETA: 2017 GA Tech product has handled Wilmington better than most RH bats and probably is in line for a promotion to NWA sometime soon. Decent pop, decent skills behind the plate. Could be a nice reserve catcher. 14) RHP Scott Blewett\| ETA: 2020 Tall, projectable righty with a fresh arm but some injury concerns on his shoulder that slipped him out of Round 1 of MLB draft. Big time potential. 15) CF Bubba Starling \| ETA: Bubba Starling has great tools. Bubba Starling (still) can’t hit. That’s all I have to say about that. 16) 1B Samir Duenez\| ETA: I still like him, even though the attempt to run him through full season ball at 17 did not go well. 17)LF/RF Elier Hernandez\| ETA: Hernandez still pops up in scouting reports but still is very raw and toolsy. 18) RHP Pedro Fernandez\| ETA: Pop-up player on the same track as Ventura and Almonte. Similar signing, similar profile. One to watch over next few years. 19) SS Marten Gasparini\| ETA: Royals’ most expensive international signing likely moves to CF eventually, but his speed and athleticism are intriguing abilities. Early reports from complex ball are very positive on him. 20) RHP Niklas Stephenson\| ETA: Interesting pop-up candidate who found 10 more MPH on his fastball by using a weighted ball during workouts over the winter. Now sits mid-90s with fastball and is dominating at rookie ball (after having an ERA over 8 there a year ago). Likely promoted to a higher challenge soon. Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-01-2014 at 09:30 AM..
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03-27-2014, 05:43 PM	#2836
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57156239	In today's dollars that contract looks bad, but its hard to judge because the new national TV deal should be causing some inflation anyway. I think we'll know better in 2 or 3 years how expensive that contract is. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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03-27-2014, 05:45 PM	#2838
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57156239	If thats the new market for a 33-year old Cabrera, then Mike Trout is going to be filthy rich when he hits free agency. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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03-27-2014, 05:49 PM	#2839
Archie F. Swin This is the way Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Wichita Falls, Texas Casino cash: $9975673	in 2003 the Royals were hitting the ball well with 836 (4th in AL) runs total and 162 Home runs (7th) pitching was mediocre with 867 runs allowed and a team ERA of 5.05 (12th among 14 AL teams) in 2013 the Royals scored 646 runs (11th in AL) 112 home runs (15th in AL) 601 runs allowed with a team ERA of 3.45 (1st in AL) __________________ "No Two People Will Do It The Same, You got It Down...When You Appear to Be In Pain!"
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03-27-2014, 05:59 PM	#2840
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57156239	Miguel Cabrera is highly respected/appreciated, but officials with other teams are appalled by Detroit decision to give him that many years. — Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) March 27, 2014 Haven't heard as much disgust over a contract from rival execs since the Jayson Werth contract. Industry is in shock over the Cabrera deal. — Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) March 27, 2014 __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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03-27-2014, 06:05 PM	#2841
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57156239	The Cabrera deal has two option years each worth $30MM. They are club options, but if Cabrera stays healthy they could vest and transform into player options. HAHAHAHAHA, what?!? They might be on the hook for his age 41 and 42 seasons? This contract is hilariously awful. The only explanation is the Tigers old eccentric billionaire does not expect to be alive in 10 years. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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03-27-2014, 06:05 PM	#2842
Cephalic Trauma Permitted Join Date: Jul 2011 Casino cash: $10004900	Jerry Dipoto is pissed.
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03-27-2014, 06:11 PM	#2844
mr. tegu Forever Royal Join Date: Mar 2012 Casino cash: $-1638700	Does a deal like this anger Scherzer even more?
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03-27-2014, 06:12 PM	#2845
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57156239	If I was Cabrera's agent, an 8-year extension with 31 AAV plus 2 option years that can vest at 30 AAV would be my "shoot for the moon" initial high-ball offer to the Tigers that I'd never expect to get, and be prepared to negotiate down from. I guess thats why I'm not an agent. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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03-27-2014, 06:30 PM	#2847
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57156239	Nori took the boys out for some sushi tonight in Milwaukee! pic.twitter.com/jbhSSEvZQj — Eric Hosmer (@TheRealHos35) March 28, 2014 __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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03-27-2014, 06:33 PM	#2848
WhawhaWhat MVP Join Date: Feb 2013 Casino cash: $-678884	Breaking News: Little Caesars now offering large cheese/pepperoni pizzas at $6. #MiguelCabreraExtension — Jeremy Guthrie (@TheRealJGuts) March 27, 2014
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03-27-2014, 08:57 PM	#2849
lewdog Mod Team Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Valley of the hot as **** Casino cash: $-1328100	Another thing that has been mentioned but I'll say it again....no way in hell we can go two seasons in a row with as few injuries as we had in 2013. And ** me having one of our infielders go down and having Valencia or bum Gio have to play long stints. We lead the league in 2013 is least days by players on the DL. Not a single MLB pitcher went on the DL once the season started. That's **ing absurd and won't be repeated. So we lead the AL in ERA and had the fewest injuries and still didn't make the playoffs? I'm not trying to be a downer but I just don't see how people can be so sure that we will match or exceed our 2013 win total. Below are statistics to show the above facts about injuries. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2013-...ist-team-data/
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03-27-2014, 09:31 PM	#2850
nychief MVP Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NYC Casino cash: $5519466	It is a myth that we were injury free...Cain, Paulino, Duffy 's set backs. [QUOTE=lewdog;10521595]Another thing that has been mentioned but I'll say it again....no way in hell we can go two seasons in a row with as few injuries as we had in 2013. And ** me having one of our infielders go down and having Valencia or bum Gio have to play long stints. We lead the league in 2013 is least days by players on the DL. Not a single MLB pitcher went on the DL once the season started. That's **ing absurd and won't be repeated. So we lead the AL in ERA and had the fewest injuries and still didn't make the playoffs? I'm not trying to be a downer but I just don't see how people can be so sure that we will match or exceed our 2013 win total. Below are statistics to show the above facts about injuries. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2013-...ist-team-data/[/QUOTE] __________________ Good Time Charlie, Uncle Doobie and the Great Frisco Freakout.
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