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Old 11-12-2013, 03:09 PM  
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Old 01-14-2014, 11:44 AM   #2146
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1) Who in the hell said that Mizzou was better than Alabama?

2) Do you hold the same vitriol for the BCS for ranking us higher than Alabama in their final rankings?
It's PB stretching things to make it appear the way he wants them to. He's referring to the comments both Duncan and I made about liking our chances against Bama this year.

And he doesn't recognize the BCS rankings because they aren't solely published by Sagarin.
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Old 01-14-2014, 11:45 AM   #2147
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It makes you wonder why the team from the SEC in the #5 bowl slot could play the #3 team in the Big 12 and beat them by double digits, whilst playing a pretty awful game. (Their starting QB being rated 26.1 on the night, for example)
Yeah...I forgot about that.
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Old 01-14-2014, 11:46 AM   #2148
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The AP and the coaches said it pretty clearly.
I should have been more specific. Which Mizzou fans said as much?
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Old 01-14-2014, 11:46 AM   #2149
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It makes you wonder why the team from the SEC in the #5 bowl slot could play the #3 team in the Big 12 and beat them by double digits, whilst playing a pretty awful game. (Their starting QB being rated 26.1 on the night, for example)
The SEC pretty much always has to play up a few levels on bowl games. Pitting our 1s through 7s against 1s through 7s from other conferences isn't fair to the other conferences.
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Old 01-14-2014, 11:47 AM   #2150
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The AP and the coaches said it pretty clearly.
See what I mean?
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Old 01-14-2014, 11:47 AM   #2151
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It's PB stretching things to make it appear the way he wants them to. He's referring to the comments both Duncan and I made about liking our chances against Bama this year.

And he doesn't recognize the BCS rankings because they aren't solely published by Sagarin.
Sagarin's ELO (used for the BCS poll) has us well ahead of Alabama, but his system is pretty much reeruned, so that isn't much of an endorsement.
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Old 01-14-2014, 11:51 AM   #2152
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Sagarin's ELO (used for the BCS poll) has us well ahead of Alabama, but his system is pretty much reeruned, so that isn't much of an endorsement.
But what does Sagarin's Prison Bitch scale say? That is the true determining factor of greatness!
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Old 01-14-2014, 11:58 AM   #2153
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But what does Sagarin's Prison Bitch scale say? That is the true determining factor of greatness!
His scale says whatever the **** he pleases. That's the great thing about being a liar. He doesn't have to base his statements on actual events. It's why he prefers to cite statistics as proof of what would happen if hypothetical events were to occur, but he refuses to cite anything regarding actual, verifiable events.

When you can't win actual events, you're left to talking shit about theoretical ones...and the lying bitch is undefeated in games that haven't actually taken place.
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Old 01-14-2014, 12:01 PM   #2154
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Old 01-14-2014, 12:09 PM   #2155
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What if we told you guys that we felt really bad about playing the schedule they assigned us. Would that help?
It would at least show some sense of self awareness, which is why it'll never happen. More fun to believe beating tomato cans actually proves anything. Sad.
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Old 01-14-2014, 12:12 PM   #2156
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There are 6M people in MO. You can't get to 16M eyeballs. This isn't rocket science Duncan. For someone who has a good handle on Sabermetrics this calc should not confuse you.


And like I say, there is a large chunk of MO residents (cough cough) that don't like Mizzou and don't watch their football games anyway. As to "tearing it up" ill stand on the facts. 9 wins vs teams finishing 22-50. MU tears up crappy teams yes.
Yes. As I said, he was mistaken on the number of people in the state of Missouri. Only about 12 million eyeballs in the state. If you expand to include the metro areas, you still only get to 15 million or so. It's the only leg you can stand on here.

Your "Facts" are wrong. You should probably check them. I know you don't like to do that, so I'd do it for you...

How in the world are you getting to 9 wins against teams that finished 22-50? Are you using George Bush math to get there? I mean, 72 games... not even full seasons for 9 teams playing 12 games.

Murray State: 6-6
Toledo: 7-5
Indiana: 5-7
Arkansas State: 8-5

That's 26 wins just against the non-conference schedule.

Vanderbilt: 9-4
Georgia: 8-5
Florida: 4-8
Tennessee: 5-7
Kentucky: 2-10
Ole Miss: 8-5
Texas A&M: 9-4
Oklahoma State: 10-3

Even if you look at just the wins against the 5 worst teams Missouri played alone, you still get to 22 wins (6+5+5+4+2). There is no way to get to 9 teams with only 22 wins.
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9-8 vs Sec teams Duncan. Now, go look up what those 9 teams did their two years in league play. Start with Kentucky's 0-16 donut and work your way through.
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Old 01-14-2014, 12:25 PM   #2158
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9-8 vs Sec teams Duncan. Now, go look up what those 9 teams did their two years in league play. Start with Kentucky's 0-16 donut and work your way through.
The total is actually 50.

Kentucky 0-16
Georgia 12-4
A & M 10-6
Tenn 3-13
Vandy 9-7
Florida 10-6
Ole Miss 6-10

Facts are certainly not your strong suit.
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Old 01-14-2014, 12:26 PM   #2159
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9-8 vs Sec teams Duncan. Now, go look up what those 9 teams did their two years in league play. Start with Kentucky's 0-16 donut and work your way through.
Let me get this straight...in order to say Mizzou isn't that great this season, you're...

Counting only games against SEC teams...
Using their record only against SEC teams...
Going back to previous seasons...
Butchering your own, cherry-picked numbers...

I don't think Sagarin would want you in his corner.
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The total is actually 50.

Kentucky 0-16
Georgia 12-4
A & M 10-6
Tenn 3-13
Vandy 9-7
Florida 10-6
Ole Miss 6-10

Facts are certainly not your strong suit.
He's not counting their records in the years we lost to them. Wins for SEC teams only count if they are against opponents who finish the season undefeated.
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