Alex Smith = Playmaker

[BossChief]

Just an amazing job in this first half of football to weather the storm of losing Charles and stepping his game up to a level many of us thought we would never see.

Worth every penny of 2 second round picks.

If they give him an extension next week, I'm ok with it.

PLAYMAKER

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

He needs excellent talent around him?

Well, lets have this discussion when he gets EXCELLENT talent around him.

He has one excellent talent, (jamal) and one good, (bowe), and that excellent lasted 6 plays, and he threw for 378 yards and 4 tds.

Your argument, is a straw argument at best.

If anything, Alex Smith proved yesterday that with excellent talent around him, he could be down right FILTHY.

Good system QB's can be ...... Joe Montana ring a bell. One would argue he was a gunslinger and he was nothing more than a very good system QB.

Let's just look at Alex vs Andrew, 1st 2 years in the NFL ? Did Alex have the success Andrew did his 1st 2 years ? Did carry his team his 1st 2 years ?

Nope, had to have talent around him and the proper system to run.

BTW, what excellent talent did Andrew have yesterday? Yet through his mistakes, he kept them motivated and carried them to victory.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

Good system QB's can be ...... Joe Montana ring a bell. One would argue he was a gunslinger and he was nothing more than a very good system QB.

Let's just look at Alex vs Andrew, 1st 2 years in the NFL ? Did Alex have the success Andrew did his 1st 2 years ? Did carry his team his 1st 2 years ?

Nope, had to have talent around him and the proper system to run.

So, essentially, in your estimation, that EVERY qb is a system qb?

And stop comparing Alex Smiths rookie seasons, to Anyone elses.

Completely different scenarios.

First and foremost, the Colts still had Reggie wayne. Added T.Y. Hilton, drafted two tight ends, and had a OC who helped Peyton Manning his first year, Ben Roethlisberger, his first year.

Completely different time, and era. Oh, also, Andrew Luck played under Jim Harbaugh in college, and was considered to be the best prospect to come out since Peyton Manning. Alex Smith was considered to be the best of a very bad draft class.

He was not wanted. Matt Leinart decided to stay in college, and the 49ers got left with Alex Smith.

[ceebz]

LOL, now the sky is the limit for Alex Smith. It's like we've seen so much bad QB play, that when we get a sniff of good QB play, we go all in.

Alex is what he is; a good game manager. He played the half of his life yesterday, then fell apart in the second.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by chiefquarterback10

Smith proved a lot of things

indeed.

I don't think he is without flaws, but I bet 99% of the board thought he would be horrid without Jamaal Charles in the game. He proved that he can move the ball well enough without his star RB. He has proven that he can do a decent job without healthy TEs. He has proven that he can do a decent job without legit #1 wideout.

Now imagine if KC hits the jackpot on a WR in the offseason.... hmmmm....

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

indeed.

I don't think he is without flaws, but I bet 99% of the board thought he would be horrid without Jamaal Charles in the game. He proved that he can move the ball well enough without his star RB. He has proven that he can do a decent job without healthy TEs. He has proven that he can do a decent job without legit #1 wideout.

Now imagine if KC hits the jackpot on a WR in the offseason.... hmmmm....

A better Trent Green if we get the WR's and get the OL solidified.

[TheUte]

Originally Posted by ceebz

LOL, now the sky is the limit for Alex Smith. It's like we've seen so much bad QB play, that when we get a sniff of good QB play, we go all in.

Alex is what he is; a good game manager. He played the half of his life yesterday, then fell apart in the second.

Yeah, that's what happened.

No starting RB, no backup RB a no problem.

Injuries and play calling were the problem yesterday not the QB.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

So, essentially, in your estimation, that EVERY qb is a system qb?

And stop comparing Alex Smiths rookie seasons, to Anyone elses.

Completely different scenarios.

First and foremost, the Colts still had Reggie wayne. Added T.Y. Hilton, drafted two tight ends, and had a OC who helped Peyton Manning his first year, Ben Roethlisberger, his first year.

Completely different time, and era. Oh, also, Andrew Luck played under Jim Harbaugh in college, and was considered to be the best prospect to come out since Peyton Manning. Alex Smith was considered to be the best of a very bad draft class.

He was not wanted. Matt Leinart decided to stay in college, and the 49ers got left with Alex Smith.

Yur just making excuses now, you got nothing but hope and hype.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by ceebz

LOL, now the sky is the limit for Alex Smith. It's like we've seen so much bad QB play, that when we get a sniff of good QB play, we go all in.

Alex is what he is; a good game manager. He played the half of his life yesterday, then fell apart in the second.

Ironic.

Andrew Luck and Alex Smith had almost identical games.

Both took advantage of the other teams defenses mistakes.

It was a one point game. The difference, was essentially a fumble that luckily bounced back to Andrew Luck.

Not to mention that a team with minimal weapons, lost its ELITE WEAPON 6 plays in, but Alex Smith is a game manager, and Andrew Luck is god.

Not that I don't think that Andrew Luck isn't better than Alex Smith. Andrew Luck is on a different planet than just about any other qb.

Its just funny how some will go to such links to dismiss how great Alex Smith played yesterday.

The difference in the game was that the Indy defense was a different animal in the second half, the Chiefs defense played worse and worse, and injuries ate up the Chiefs in the end.

Nothing you can ever say will take away from how well Alex Smith played yesterday. That was a FRANCHISE QB PERFORMANCE.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

Yur just making excuses now, you got nothing but hope and hype.

Im not the one who just called Joe Montana a system qb.

[jerryforeverrice80]

you blow a 28 point lead you deserve to lose i don't care who you are.

last i checked defense wins championships.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Ironic.

Andrew Luck and Alex Smith had almost identical games.

Both took advantage of the other teams defenses mistakes.

It was a one point game. The difference, was essentially a fumble that luckily bounced back to Andrew Luck.

Not to mention that a team with minimal weapons, lost its ELITE WEAPON 6 plays in, but Alex Smith is a game manager, and Andrew Luck is god.

Not that I don't think that Andrew Luck isn't better than Alex Smith. Andrew Luck is on a different planet than just about any other qb.

Its just funny how some will go to such links to dismiss how great Alex Smith played yesterday.

The difference in the game was that the Indy defense was a different animal in the second half, the Chiefs defense played worse and worse, and injuries ate up the Chiefs in the end.

Nothing you can ever say will take away from how well Alex Smith played yesterday. That was a FRANCHISE QB PERFORMANCE.

Look, we just have a very different opinion on Alex. He played great yesterday, as well as you will possible ever see him play. The only way he will ever be better is with better talent.

Alex did not throw any picks, Andrew had 3 and still willed his way from a bad performance to lead when needed. Would Alex be able to throw 3 picks and will his team to a win ? Very seldom at best, not consistently as your top QB's in the NFL do.

Now this, our defense lost this game, clear and simple. Nothing Alex did cost us the game. Yet when the game was on the line, Alex did fail on the last series, as much as the play calling was questionable, he made a costly error on the throw out of bounds and not take the sack, costing us a down in a 4 down territory. You can blame anybody you want, blocking assignments, Alex has to know what to do there in crunch time. Andy has to make sure he allows Alex the right situation to succeed, why ? Because he is a very good system QB, needing top level talent around him to succeed at the highest level of competition.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Im not the one who just called Joe Montana a system qb.

He was!

Joe always had great talent around him in SF. In KC, not so much, he wasn't great, he was past his prime and we needed to build good talent around him. We needed a RB to lean on, we got Marcus Allen.

Look, believe what you will, yur convinced Alex is the Greatest, enjoy!

[Kaepernick]

Originally Posted by ceebz

Six, SIX points scored in the final 28 minutes. One, ONE long sustained drive in the final 28 minutes.

When your defense starts leaking that badly, a QB worth his chops puts a long TD drive together to stem the tide. A. Smith could not do that.

I hear you.

Alex Smith could have won the game but he sure didn't lose it.

You also act as if the offense hadn't sustained a parade of key injuries.

Alex Smith DID NOT LOSE this game. The Defense lost the game!

[Mav]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

He was!

Joe always had great talent around him in SF. In KC, not so much, he wasn't great, he was past his prime and we needed to build good talent around him. We needed a RB to lean on, we got Marcus Allen.

Look, believe what you will, yur convinced Alex is the Greatest, enjoy!

So you wouldn't want to put great talent around an elite qb? Like say the Broncos did adding Welker with peyton? I've never understood this.

[CoMoChief]

Alex Smith played very good yesterday. But let's be honest, that was one of his best games of his career in terms of stat line. People are acting like this performance warrants him a long term deal, as if this was the kind of play we've been seeing all along from Smith, which it hasn't been. Smith has been very mediocre for a majority of the season. A lot of it has to also do w/ the offense, but AS is a very much dink n dunk QB.

The guy needs to pass down field more. I know he's big on not turning the ball over, but at some point you have to put points on the board from the passing game. If he gets resigned, then we better get more WR/TE/Oline help. The production from the TE position this season was atrocious, as was our WR core. Bowe was inconsistent throughout the season and Avery just pisses everyone off. If his knee would hold up, this team needs to think about bringing in Jeremy Maclin AND look at Marquis Lee in the draft.

WR-Dwayne Bowe
WR-Marqis Lee
WR-Jeremy Maclin
WR-Dexter McCluster
WR-AJ Jenkins
WR-Junior Hemingway

Tight End?
Sign Fred Davis. Guy has talent and has hit the injury big PLUS...the guy loves to smoke pot....hey we got guys that love to get high too. Bowe, Houston, Hali, Davis should have no problem fitting in here in KC. No more of this McGrath crap. Kelce hopefully doesn't follow in Moeaki's footsteps, but should be every more reason to sign Fred Davis. This offense got shit from the TE position this season.

TE-Fred Davis
TE-Anthony Fasano
TE-Travis Moeaki Kelce