Nick Jacob's & Matt Derrick's podcast Josh Simmons take
 

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Got 2 minutes in and nothing other than stroking themselves about supposedly being correct about some mock draft competition. I'm out.

They were decent and reasonable. They actually talk about the injury and it’s massive risk. Kcsn guys were sucking their own dicks so hard and refuse to even talk about the risk.

Yeah - this is gonna be a bit of a beat-off session from most of the KC Sports Media. The KCSN lab guys are going to be intolerable -- not going to bother.

I am interested to hear Verdarame's take on this, though. Because he's been the most measured about it the whole time. Very much of the "Man, that knee worries me but he sure does seem to have more talent than is usually available at that spot..."

The rest of 'em...I'm skipping. I know what that show's gonna be before listen to it. A whole lot of guys patting themselves on the back for being right. Okay - enjoy your victory lap.

But I'd like to hear what someone who isn't nearly as vested in the pick itself has to say. Verderame is the only one I can think of who wasn't "Simmons or Bust" over the last month.

Matt Derrick was present at the Draft presser, and gives more detail on the medicals

You don't actually have to turn your cameras on fellas

This

We all know this is a long shot. It works out or it doesn't. It's a home run or a strike out. As a prospect he's a top 10 talent - as injuries go it's a horrible one to have.

Jacobs really needs to lay off the Jack Stack, his head is basically connected to his shoulders at this point. Any remains of a neck have long passed into the BBQ graveyard. :)

Faces for radio.

But they are not much different than the average CP’er who bangs 3 different chicks per week.

I assume the fat **** on the right is eating Twinkies the whole time

I mean they're both probably representative of their audience but like the saying "you eat with your eyes", they look like a plate of Cincinnati chili and are probably damaging their product by turning their cameras on

Like its hard to press play looking at that still frame in the OP

First thought I had. LMAO

2nd was dude on the right needs to seriously start considering salads.

He had a pod this morning. Here are the cliff notes:

-Gave the pick a C+
-Acknowledged that Simmons is very talented
-Is worried about the injury on a 300+ lbs player
-They better be right
-The upside is undeniable if they are are right
-They better be right
-No pick would help the future more if they are right
-Matt wanted Burden
-Again…they better be right

He made a great point that today needs to be a great day for Veach. Needs to get 3 guys to come in and make an immediate impact now

Yeah, I appreciate that.

Derrick has torn both patellar tendons, so he knows first-hand what the recovery is like and what the "new normal" is - less than what "normal" was in the past.

**** Verderame, you who hate the pick all sound like pussies bleeding as you walk about.

It’s seriously embarrassing.

Bitch all year about LT, then get mad when they draft the most talented guy at the position. At 32.

I really don’t care if they miss. The swing here to potentially cement LT for the rest of Mahomes’ career is so mother****ing worth it. How short are our memories?

The movement ability he was showing just five months post-op was nuts. Didn’t even look like he had been injured. And he’s got another five months to keep recovering and strengthening.

Lmao very lucky people don't watch football podcasts for eye candy LMAO

If they took Burden they "better be right" too, and no, that wouldn't be a sure thing either.

This pick was well worth the risk.

We possibly could get a very good LT on the cheap for 5ish years before we have to pay him. This one pick could solidify our weakest and most important position on offense for the next decade.

I don't believe there are too many sure fire prospects every year in the draft. Every pick is a gamble, some less than others. Everyone forgets how Andy handles rookie WR's in his scheme and thats a slow ramp up. Not likely Burden bursts onto the season much of his first season with the Chiefs had he been picked.

All intents and purposes you can quantify that sentiment for every pick to the 5th round

The risk there is that he's a diva WR or an immature guy with maturity issues.

Which is nearly every WR.

Not that he's physically unable to play the game.

There are more questions for Burden on the field than Simmons.

He didn't just fall because of character issues. The raw talent is undeniable but he's very far from a sure thing. Some thing he might be a slot only guy, limited route tree, etc.

The only question with Simmons is health, and maybe maturity.

He’s very rational about the Chiefs which is why I like him. He pointed out a lot of the benefits as well as the risks.

Gonna be honest here: Matt Lane ****ing sucks. He’s absolutely unbearable to me. And he’s awful to listen to.

Matt Lane is all about Matt Lane. If he doesn’t like a guy we pick, he’ll torch the kid relentlessly. He did just that with Jaylon Moore a month ago when we signed him.

It’s still Nick Jacobs/Matt Derrick and Verderame for me. Kent Swanson is cool but Matt Lane’s ego and Craig Stout being a part timer has killed KCSN for me



KCSN got much worse when Craig Stout stepped back.

These 2 weigh 400 pounds a piece and never played football. Why in the **** should I watch this? Lol

This is normally one of my favorite pods. And was a good listen to help my simmer down a bit. Was really unhappy last night. Still uneasy but we’ve got to trust in what we can’t see and they can. I dont see him being playable until the 2026 season if we’re being honest.

Yeah, Lane is the guy who is really makes those shows hard to stomach. I don't consume their shows when he is part of them.

I just wanted to add that Verdame was adamant about the Chiefs not taking a T (even said he'd put his rep on the line), so let's not pretend he's above being biased because he agrees with you.

That's about how I feel about it all.

And I guarantee that’s mostly why he graded the pick a C+.

He walked that back on his pod with Tucker earlier this week. He also fully acknowledged that gracefully and said he truly hopes the kid works out.

Which is why I like him. He’s gracious and can be honest when he’s wrong and take the heat.

Meanwhile Matt Lane is NEVER wrong, EVER. He is the expert, that’s how it’s gonna be and you’re not smarter than him because he put in work and made the KCSN draft guide.

I’m sure folks are thrilled to hear Seth Keysor’s dad jokes and how his wife is hot and he’s lucky to have her for the 5,457th time. Great content there.

And if you think yesterday was bad, today Josh Briscoe is joining their draft coverage today. Can’t wait to hear that guys unfunny jokes/humor again with a touch of condescension if they Chiefs take a risk on a guy with any kind of trouble off the field that he’ll surely grandstand on yet again.

Unwatchable egotistical garbage

Brisco is the absolute worst IMO.

I can tolerate Lane, because he has a decent football mind. Brisco is that little bundle of sticks that has no business being there.

I'm just curious as to what the point of the message board is if it's just "in Veach we trust" ?

If you're gonna be on board and ok with everything they do, seems a waste of time to discuss anything or spend time doing it.

I've paid about the least amount of attention to this whole offseason draft process as I ever have, so I don't have an opinion either way on it, but what's with all the issues with other guys having an opinion?

I don't think I'd agree, but it's all how you really want to project things.

Burden took a hit largely because of bad QB play.

I’m a god fearing Christian but I absolutely hate when he makes everything a I’m better than thou! How could the chiefs have this guy around? Deal.

It’s ****ing terrible. You’re morally superior. Whatever. You’re also a home schooled radio host not an NFL player. People make mistakes shut up.

We think alike.
Verderame is rational and at times funny with his commentary. He gives you a dose of reality and optimism at the same time which is a skill not many have.

Lane and Keyser, I switch the channel each time their faces come on. Unbearable to listen to. Lane in particular has this annoying voice and seems to always be whining about everything. I don't want that negative energy when I have to listen to Chiefs content.

Derrick and Jacobs are also great. They get straight to football talk and even when they deviate from talking football, it's somehow related to football. It's enjoyable to listen to them both. You can tell they have true insight about the team.

All of these shlubs are better than Cole and his stupid ASMR voice

He's a self-righteous douche.

Is that the "how bout those Chiefs?" guy?

WRs don't fall out of the 1st round jsut for being divas. He absolutely has some football questions as well.

Agreed. KCSN is pathetic besides the weird games team. I think Taylor is good. The breakdowns from Kysor.

Verdarame is the best independent take of Chiefs football. Not even close.

Brisco is absolutely the worst. God he sucks.

To Run's point, the best thing about Verdarame is that he IS nuanced in his takes and he's not so insecure that he's unwilling to admit being wrong.

Whereas Josh Brisco will insist 4 years later than Nick Bolton is worth $6 million and Drue Tranquill is better.

I think Verdarame is good because he has a national gig. So he can't be a complete honk and frankly he doesn't NEED to be. If Chiefs fans hate him - so what? He has SI. And if he spends all his time sucking up to Chiefs fans, his credibility at SI suffers.

So he gives you the only real balanced and genuinely informed opinions out there.

Verderame is really really good.

Me on the right

Skinnier than the chicks you ****

The only difference between them and you is they get paid to do cover the Chefs and have OP's, right?