Veach setting up for DT in 1st?
 

With the moves in free agency so far and the re-signings leading up to free agency, Veach seems to be setting up to draft a DT in Round 1, but no later than Round 2.

Looking at all the draft gurus in here. Is there a DT worth drafting at 31?

You're going to be disappointed if you think this way...the Chiefs since hiring Spags haven't valued DT at all.

Could this year be different? Yea but if it is it's because there's a DT that fits their mold, long, leanish, ability to lineup all over the place.

I’d expect a couple picks along the DL, but also wouldn’t hate another offensive weapon to fall.

RB can be had in the mid rounds, but if Omarion Hampton is there…man that would be tempting.

I think it's more they're trying to setup to be able to take whoever the best player on the board is..

People might get a bit upset if that ends up WR or CB which it easily could.

Source: Another big-time DT hits the market as the #Steelers have released Larry Ogunjobi.

I’d love a DT, say no to a DE

WR and DT are my top 2. Would still like to double dip at OT but doubt that comes in rd 1 unless Simmons falls and/or they’re in love with Conerly.

It just seems like the timing and situation is right. Chris Jones isn't getting any younger and with Wharton probably leaving there is nothing else at DT. Outside of Notre Dame games I didn't get to watch much college football this year. I have no idea how deep this draft is at DT, but I would be surprised if the Chiefs didn't draft a DT with either of their first 2 picks.

The Chiefs didn’t value Corner for the first 3 years with Spags either until a talent like McDuffie was there.

This is the best DL draft since 2019. There’s gonna be extremely talented DT’s there.

Yea but the difference in that and this is Spags very obviously has a type when it comes to defensive linemen. I think he's a little more open about DB's not filling every box when DL he is not. He is very very in a very specific hole about what he wants in DL.

It's going to be an EDGE I think.

Omenihu is a FA. Why on earth would we say no to a DE?

Which one, because they have to fit a very specific mold for what Spags likes..

I could easily see the Chiefs drafting Shemar Stewart and everyone groaning.

I think you’re gonna see DL, RB and CB early. I think they double dip at DL and draft another safety as well

Not that many guys fit the bill of the "Spags DL" so if they actually do take 2 of them in the first 3 rounds I fully expect groaning.

when everything shakes out.. I wouldn't be surprised to have 3 new bodies along the D-line. DL or Edge.. but 3 of them.

even if one is a Rookie FA

sucks to lose Turk but the rest of just guys. May as well be big, young and cheaper

We are set up to legitimately take the best player available.


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Because they’re going to get limited snaps behind Karlaftis, Danna, and FAU, we’ve already dealt with FAU sitting on the bench for the better part of 2 years and I don’t see a rookie DE in the range we’re at doing much better.

Only if they have elite pass rush skills does DT make sense in the 1st.

I think it’ll be DT or CB, since the top level edge guys will be gone before they can trade up. They need all three of those positions anyway, which maybe can be useful and they just take the best one available instead of being forced into reaching for a guy

Let’s just keep Wharton and Omenihu? Wharton broke out last season and Omenihu was hurt all year but could be a solid contributor when healthy.

Yea the Chiefs just have 60 million dollars laying around. Lets keep Justin Reid while we're at it.

While I would draft a DT in the first, I'm betting Veach zigs while everyone else zags.

31: CB
63: RB
66: DT
95: OT
132: WR
256: Whatever

So something like Jahdae Barron, Judkins, TJ Sanders, Bolton, Felton seems very Veachy to me.

Nah, I don’t see veach being content with our OL just because we have a few guys locked down. Two things we’ve seen from veach is when we have a big hole he goes all in to fix it. And when he signs a 1-2 year deal it usually means he needs someone to hold the door open while they find a replacement.

I think we will be going heavy Offense in the draft. I agree that given positional value we will probably go for either DL or DB with the first rounder.

I think DB is more likely. Hairston or Morrison.

And…who is returning DT?

Jones and….crickets..

DT is definitely in play for #1. Particularly with this years deep group.

Why would you say no to a DT?

DE you have Karlaftis, Dana, FAU under contract.

That was the same as last year and they proceeded to just bring back cheap vets.

I wouldn't mind a RT in the first round to eventually replace Taylor...who's gone after this season when we can reasonably absorb his dead cap hit.

This is a shitty OT draft cmon.

Morris has to be able to slot in at RT by next year, if you’re drafting an OT it should be for a developmental option who has the ability to play LT eventually

You have no clue how many snaps they're going to get. Danna and FAU aren't keeping Scourton from getting snaps for example. Same with the DT. What a silly take.

Kenny Grant and Shemar Stewart fit what the Chiefs like in DL...

Scourton is a better prospect than Karlaftis with a noticeably higher ceiling.

If they take a DE I think it would be him

I think our pick at 31 will be a DL of some type, unless they are absolutely in love with Conerly or one of the receivers (Burden or Egbuka) somehow make their way to us.

Does this mean that Nandi is finally getting replaced?

DT or DB is probably what it's going to be

Hell, I wouldn't mind if they brought Khalen Saunders back. I always enjoyed his play and I was at the New Orleans game where he had that interception/run back. The cool thing was how the Arrowhead fans reacted to him after the game and he was signing stuff an visiting with fans like he was still a Chief.

Best EDGE on the board with #1

Make it so

Chiefs really need a bigger WR to replace Juju and Watson and go with Rice for the future. Wouldn’t be surprised if that was one of the first 3 picks tbh

I wouldn’t be surprised if Veach does zig while everyone else zags though. WR and RB with the first 2 picks wouldn’t surprise me at all

One of these d ends

Guys I think will be off the board:
DT Mason Graham, Michigan
DT Derrick Harmon, Oregon (might be able to trade up for him)
DT Walter Nolen, Ole Miss (character flags might drop him)
DE Abdul Carter, Penn State
DE Mykel Williams, Georgia
DE Shemar Stewart, Texas A&M

Guys I think are in play:
DT Kenneth Grant, Michigan
DT Tyleik Williams, Ohio State
DE Princely Umanmielen, Ole Miss
DE J.T. Tuimoloau, Ohio State
DE Nic Scourton, Texas A&M

Don't sleep on these guys:
DT Alfred Collins, Texas
DT T.J. Sanders, South Carolina
DE Landon Jackson, Arkansas
DE Jack Sawyer, Ohio State
DE James Pearce, Tennessee (reportedly huge character flags but top 10 talent)


Personal opinion is that if Harmon makes it to a comfortable trade-up distance for Veach, he's making that move. He is such a disruptive interior player. Him and Jones would be absolutely sick next to each other.

If he can't do that, I'd lean towards an edge and I'm putting my money on Princely.

I need to stop watching Derrick Harmon bc that’s my guy and it will make me sick if we don’t get him.

I still believe that if Luther Burden falls to 31 they just might take him.

I wouldn't be surprised if he takes DT/DE/RT in the first 3 picks.

Please God

Would love Harmon, even more if he fell to us. I'd be pretty underwhelmed by Princely, though I could absolutely see it

what the **** are you talking about /Chris Jones' contract

If Derrick Thomas is available we should definitely take him

Would love to land a legit speed rusher opposite the Greek.

Same here with Princely, but we did spend a visit with him at the combine and I've noticed he has crept up boards to the 30s now. He seems a bit light for Spags but he can sure pressure the pocket.

I'd much rather a more stout guy like Scourton, Tuimoloau, or Sawyer.

I think people are really sleeping on those Ohio State DEs. Both were 5-star recruits who have just continued to develop, and they flat-out turned it on in the college football playoffs.

You look at Tuimoloau in the playoffs, he had 20 pressures, 9 TFL, 5.5 sacks, 2 PBUs, and 1 FF in 4 games.

Sawyer had 17 pressures, 5 TFL, 4.5 sacks, 7 PBUs, 1 FF, and that historic 83-yard fumble return to seal it.

That's better than most guy's seasons in the draft.

Well, we took a Kingsley so why not a Princely.

Where do you guys see Darius Alexander going?

PFF has like a mid first round ranking on him. Everyone else seems to have him in the 2nd or 3rd.

He’s older, so I don’t know that Veach would love him too early.

My personal opinion is 3rd round. I'd be surprised if he crept into the 2nd, but you never know. I just think there are too many much better prospects. If I'm looking at 2nd round grades to fringe 3rd, I'd confidently have these guys above him:

Tyleik Williams, Ohio State
T.J. Sanders, South Carolina
Alfred Collins, Texas
Joshua Farmer, Florida State

I see the same creep you do, and I just don't see the same level of skill as any of those guys. That's not even considering there are a solid 4 first-round guys on top of those. I guess you just never know how the NFL will see it though.

My bet is we take on with our 2 or the titans 3.

Maybe move up a bit from our 2 to get up and get a guy that drops a bit more than usual due to positional depth.