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Easy 6 02-13-2025 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17967799)
Karlaftis and our first to Dallas for Micah.
Hard to envision that happening, Jerry always thinks they're almost ready to contend... ditching their best defender when he believes that seems out of character for him

MahomesMagic 02-13-2025 02:25 PM
Matt Verderame said he was at the game and the lack of speed on offense was jarring.


Kelce, JuJu, Hopkins, even Pacheco looked like they were stuck in cement compared to the speed on the Eagles D.

Jerm 02-13-2025 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17967792)
Honestly, though -- just how big a swing is there to take?

What "wow, they did WHAT?!" sort of move would be out there. I guess a big trade for Garrett but that doesn't seem their style. Would even a trade for Tyreek Hill really shock anyone?

There's nobody that they can realistically cut that would surprise you. If they don't pay Bolton or Smith, that wouldn't shock anyone either.

I mean...I just don't see what they can do that would really set my hair on fire. Thuney, Smith and Creed are all guys with contracts that all but assure they're Chiefs next season, Jones and Mahomes are Jones and Mahomes. They're giving Kelce time to 'decide what he wants to do' which means they'd bring him back if they he wanted to come back.

I just don't see a slate of available shocking possibilities.
Tee Higgins would be the head turner for me….

htismaqe 02-13-2025 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17967813)
The concept of running the ball is correct, but running for 1-2 yards with punchless RB’s would ultimately have done nothing.

Need explosive RB’s.
Exactly.

O.city 02-13-2025 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17967819)
Matt Verderame said he was at the game and the lack of speed on offense was jarring.


Kelce, JuJu, Hopkins, even Pacheco looked like they were stuck in cement compared to the speed on the Eagles D.
The last 3/4 Eagles drafts have just been monsters.

wannaGOback 02-13-2025 02:32 PM
I think Mahomes needs to be a bit more comfortable with throwing jump balls. And we need a guy who can get them. Worthy had a few good ones to close out the year.

chiefzilla1501 02-13-2025 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by wannaGOback (Post 17967832)
I think Mahomes needs to be a bit more comfortable with throwing jump balls. And we need a guy who can get them. Worthy had a few good ones to close out the year.
Absolutely. If only we got last years version of dhop. This years version was cooked and I hope it doesn’t give us cold feet about finding another

Easy 6 02-13-2025 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by wannaGOback (Post 17967832)
I think Mahomes needs to be a bit more comfortable with throwing jump balls. And we need a guy who can get them. Worthy had a few good ones to close out the year.
Why make a leopard change his spots?

Just get him guys who can separate

DJ's left nut 02-13-2025 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17967819)
Matt Verderame said he was at the game and the lack of speed on offense was jarring.


Kelce, JuJu, Hopkins, even Pacheco looked like they were stuck in cement compared to the speed on the Eagles D.
Yeah - we've known that was a problem for awhile now. It was exacerbated by replacing Rice with Hopkins.

Pacheco lost more than a step.

And what we'd been doing in our efforts to outphysical teams in response obviously didn't work.

I mean ultimately it was just a situation where every single wart we had ended up fully exposed as loudly and catastrophically as possible. To an extent that comes down to coaching but also it may have just been that we ran out of runway.

The problem with smoke and mirrors is that eventually the smoke will clear and you're just out of answers.

DJ's left nut 02-13-2025 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 17967838)
Why make a leopard change his spots?

Just get him guys who can separate
Yup.

I don't care if Mahomes won't throw jump balls.

Get him guys that will get open quickly. And then maybe he'll start throwing the ball on time again.

His processing speed is one of his biggest strengths. If he had the 'yips' because he didn't trust his guys to be open and that's why he stopped working in the rhythm of the offense, then get him guys that will get open more quickly.

Rice is definitely a nice start.

Daniel ****ing Jones can throw jump balls -- that's not a QB skill and not something I really want to be encouraging.

O.city 02-13-2025 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17967846)
Yup.

I don't care if Mahomes won't throw jump balls.

Get him guys that will get open quickly. And then maybe he'll start throwing the ball on time again.

His processing speed is one of his biggest strengths. If he had the 'yips' because he didn't trust his guys to be open and that's why he stopped working in the rhythm of the offense, then get him guys that will get open more quickly.

Rice is definitely a nice start.

Daniel ****ing Jones can throw jump balls -- that's not a QB skill and not something I really want to be encouraging.
Can they get Tyreek back? Can we make that work? I mean....**** I know all the drama there but hell he'd be a nice fit with the 2 we got.

Waddle maybe? Do the Saints want off Olave?

O.city 02-13-2025 02:44 PM
I'm really excited about Worthy though. Just keep stacking speed and go from there.

DJ's left nut 02-13-2025 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 17967820)
Tee Higgins would be the head turner for me….
The market for him is going to be HORRIFYING.

I mean it's a lousy WR market -- he is easily the top guy out there with Cooper and maybe Brown being the next 2. That's how rough the WR market is.

Now you have teams like the Chargers, Cardinals, Raiders and Patriots sitting on GOBS of cap space and all with dire needs at the WR position. Those 4 teams alone have $350 million in available cap space before they make a single cut or restructure next season.

If Higgins somehow hits the open market (I don't think he will -- the Bengals should obviously tag him) he might re-set the market just because of timing. As ridiculous as him beating out Jefferson's 4/$140 million would sound -- what else are the Patriots gonna spend it on? If they can get Higgins to say yes, they'll give him that deal.

DJ's left nut 02-13-2025 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17967850)
Can they get Tyreek back? Can we make that work? I mean....**** I know all the drama there but hell he'd be a nice fit with the 2 we got.

Waddle maybe? Do the Saints want off Olave?
See my post above.

Man, I just don't know that I want to be trading for WRs these days. The money is still ****ing nuts for them. Olave is extension eligible this offseason and hasn't done a shitload but may well get $25 million/season or more.

Like you said, just keep stacking at the position. Once the depth is established and you have a viable throughput every season, you don't have to do this annual first 6 weeks slog while you're waiting for your #2 (or even #1) receiver to come online.

You just keep plugging and chugging.

MahomesMagic 02-13-2025 02:48 PM
Tired of all the smiles from defenses because they get to play against KC offense and Mahomes.


Want to wipe those smiles off their faces and run a real NFL offense again.


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