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Veach setting up for DT in 1st? (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=357439)

If Derrick Thomas is available we should definitely take him

Would love to land a legit speed rusher opposite the Greek.

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 17996281)

Would love Harmon, even more if he fell to us. I'd be pretty underwhelmed by Princely, though I could absolutely see it

Same here with Princely, but we did spend a visit with him at the combine and I've noticed he has crept up boards to the 30s now. He seems a bit light for Spags but he can sure pressure the pocket.

I'd much rather a more stout guy like Scourton, Tuimoloau, or Sawyer.

I think people are really sleeping on those Ohio State DEs. Both were 5-star recruits who have just continued to develop, and they flat-out turned it on in the college football playoffs.

You look at Tuimoloau in the playoffs, he had 20 pressures, 9 TFL, 5.5 sacks, 2 PBUs, and 1 FF in 4 games.

Sawyer had 17 pressures, 5 TFL, 4.5 sacks, 7 PBUs, 1 FF, and that historic 83-yard fumble return to seal it.

That's better than most guy's seasons in the draft.

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17995604)

Guys I think will be off the board:
DT Mason Graham, Michigan
DT Derrick Harmon, Oregon (might be able to trade up for him)
DT Walter Nolen, Ole Miss (character flags might drop him)
DE Abdul Carter, Penn State
DE Mykel Williams, Georgia
DE Shemar Stewart, Texas A&M

Guys I think are in play:
DT Kenneth Grant, Michigan
DT Tyleik Williams, Ohio State
DE Princely Umanmielen, Ole Miss
DE J.T. Tuimoloau, Ohio State
DE Nic Scourton, Texas A&M

Don't sleep on these guys:
DT Alfred Collins, Texas
DT T.J. Sanders, South Carolina
DE Landon Jackson, Arkansas
DE Jack Sawyer, Ohio State
DE James Pearce, Tennessee (reportedly huge character flags but top 10 talent)

Personal opinion is that if Harmon makes it to a comfortable trade-up distance for Veach, he's making that move. He is such a disruptive interior player. Him and Jones would be absolutely sick next to each other.

If he can't do that, I'd lean towards an edge and I'm putting my money on Princely.

Well, we took a Kingsley so why not a Princely.

Where do you guys see Darius Alexander going?

PFF has like a mid first round ranking on him. Everyone else seems to have him in the 2nd or 3rd.

He’s older, so I don’t know that Veach would love him too early.

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17996489)

My personal opinion is 3rd round. I'd be surprised if he crept into the 2nd, but you never know. I just think there are too many much better prospects. If I'm looking at 2nd round grades to fringe 3rd, I'd confidently have these guys above him:

Tyleik Williams, Ohio State
T.J. Sanders, South Carolina
Alfred Collins, Texas
Joshua Farmer, Florida State

I see the same creep you do, and I just don't see the same level of skill as any of those guys. That's not even considering there are a solid 4 first-round guys on top of those. I guess you just never know how the NFL will see it though.

My bet is we take on with our 2 or the titans 3.

Maybe move up a bit from our 2 to get up and get a guy that drops a bit more than usual due to positional depth.