think damien williams and mckinnon

reids offenses even going back to the eagles have generally had the most success with a shifty receiving back. i think it's what we missed the most since mckinnons departure.

Rice back and a more explosive running back changes everything. That would force a move out of the two high look.

It’s pretty clear a lot of the yips is a lack of trust.

He went through two years of WRs making horrible route and catch adjustments. And particularly this year he’s seeing ghosts in the pocket.

He’s not going to get better if he keeps having PTSD. Give him some quality and consistency to work through his problems. When he’s starting to find his way again you won’t need that kind of overcorrection. But the idea that we should play fear factor and keep throwing him into a pit of snakes he’s scared of isn’t it. And blaming him for fearing snakes after they’ve bit you repeatedly is understandable. We need to give him the tools to be successful, enough with the concept that he needs to keep powering through adversity

Yeah we’ve got to stop using our WRs as a substitute for speed out of the backfield. We need at least one speed option. I’m good with perine in the McKinnon role even if he’s not as fast

They use Rice as a possession receiver.

What would the narrative be if we lost a close game?

Probably just run it back.


But for those claiming this is new, it's not.

This offense has been steadily declining the last 2 years.


We focused on building the defense but the offense has fallen way off.

The offense has been declining because Mahomes isn't playing as well in 2023 and 2024 as he did in 2022 and before. Maybe it's because he doesn't take the regular season as seriously anymore. When your best player plays well, it makes others around him better. He had JAGs for WR in 2022 and a shaky LT in Orlando Brown, Jr., plus a rookie RB. Yet he won the MVP because he was focused throughout the season and playing at a high level from week 1.

That is true. But to say Mahomes is just not playing as well without noting the changes and drop in personnel, weapons, protection, and coaching is silly.


Orlando Brown Jr didn't get run over by the Eagles in his SB. Thuney was getting demolished.


Far worse.

He's playing well the last two regular seasons. But in 2022 he was at a higher level. That was right after the Tyreek trade and new WRs were brought in. Rookie RB.

Obviously, Kelce was better back then also. He still had YAC which completely disappeared this season. Insert the 2022 Kelce into the 2024 offense, and they'd be better.

Without a LT and RT that allows Mahomes to have time to throw deep, we won't be an explosive offense. We have to be dink and dunk until those positions are solidified.

Other teams get the same looks and still put up explosive plays (see Buffalo).

How many offenses nowadays throw it deep frequently with success?

Teams would revert to the two deep safety anytime someone shows a consistent deep threat.

2022 he had better OL, better Kelce. We also had schematic advantage.


Teams had screwed with Mahomes/Reid by taking away our vertical game we relied on in 2021.


Reid came back in 2022 with a vengeance. Problem was there was no counter-punch after teams realized we were happy to dink and dunk.

It's well documented that Mahomes missed a lot of open opportunities to Worthy this year, it was always because he was going into that Alex Smith mode where the eyes were dropping and he was running into sacks many times.

That has to stop, and upgrading personnel is the quickest easiest path. LT, RB, WR, whatever comes to them they've gotta take.