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Womble 02-13-2025 11:19 AM

If you look at the deep routes our WRs were running on Sunday it seems that the game plan was to be explosive and get huge chunk plays. Can't do that when your QB is getting pressured on every play and there's 7 defenders in the backfield though!

FloridaMan88 02-13-2025 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17967501)
Being explosive on offense has been talked about forever, about 75% of it not being explosive this year is injuries though so it's not like they need completely new personnel.

Personnel upgrades at LT and RB, yes.

Injuries to WR obviously impacted that part of the explosiveness equation… although would the Chiefs have been able to maximize the potential of their WR group even if Rice and Hollywood were healthy for the duration of the season?

Doubtful given the LT situation.

GordonGekko 02-13-2025 11:20 AM

I love Andy Reid, he has brought winning football to KC in a way that was almost unimaginable 15 years ago, however his gameplans have become stale and these razor thin margins of victory are not sustainable. He needs to rebuild the offensive gameplan and we need utilize the run more, play action, and down the field throws. The side to side stuff has a place definitely and is a winning system, but it has become TOO west coast dink and dunk and defenses with their speed are all over it. With Mahomes PPG should always be 30+ until his tires fall off due to age.

Hammock Parties 02-13-2025 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17967493)
It really has nothing to do with "letting them be explosive" the top of the line offenses dictate what they do.

The Chiefs were #1 in offense in 2022 and weren't particularly explosive.

O.city 02-13-2025 11:22 AM

When you have defenses coming out and saying "we wanted to keep the QB in the pocket and make him play QB".....well......

DJ's left nut 02-13-2025 11:22 AM

Like I said in the draft forum -- if there's a TE and a WR of similar pedigree/potential on the board, I'm taking the WR.

The comparison I made was Colston Loveland vs. Emeka Egbuka. Presuming for the sake of argument that you find both guys to be similarly 'graded' prospects, if I had my choice of either, I'm taking the WR.

Reid's entire career he has shown the ability to get yardage out of his TE. If Kelce walks, we'll still get 800+ yards out of the TE position as a whole.

In the meantime, I'd like to see us move more towards a WR oriented offense with a RB that's more capable of breaking longer runs and/or doing more damage in the screen/passing game.

I agree completely with the thesis of the article. Ultimately we've gotten the job done with plodding weapons and minimizing mistakes, but we're underutilizing our most valuable (and expensive) asset in so doing.

GordonGekko 02-13-2025 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17967508)
If you look at the deep routes our WRs were running on Sunday it seems that the game plan was to be explosive and get huge chunk plays. Can't do that you when your QB is getting pressured on every play and there's 7 defenders in the backfield though!

Yeah offensive line is a major concern, basically every position except Thuney when he moves back to LG, and Creed, and Thuney IS getting older. RT, RG, and definitely LT all need to be addressed in some way. Trey Smith had a a terrible year, and Jawaan Taylor is below average.

O.city 02-13-2025 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17967519)
Like I said in the draft forum -- if there's a TE and a WR of similar pedigree/potential on the board, I'm taking the WR.

The comparison I made was Colston Loveland vs. Emeka Egbuka. Presuming for the sake of argument that you find both guys to be similarly 'graded' prospects, if I had my choice of either, I'm taking the WR.

Reid's entire career he has shown the ability to get yardage out of his TE. If Kelce walks, we'll still get 800+ yards out of the TE position as a whole.

In the meantime, I'd like to see us move more towards a WR oriented offense with a RB that's more capable of breaking longer runs and/or doing more damage in the screen/passing game.

I agree completely with the thesis of the article. Ultimately we've gotten the job done with plodding weapons and minimizing mistakes, but we're underutilizing our most valuable (and expensive) asset in so doing.

That asset needs to have guys he can "trust" or whatever that means.

scho63 02-13-2025 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17967469)
We spent a 1st round pick on an explosive playmaker but spent much of the season throwing him 2 yard passes.

Of which he is easily tackled. He is NOT a YAC receiver.

FloridaMan88 02-13-2025 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17967512)
The Chiefs were #1 in offense in 2022 and weren't particularly explosive.

They led the NFL in yards per play average in 2022… 6.4 yards per play.

Down to 5.5 yards per play in 2023 and 5.1 yards per play this season.

scho63 02-13-2025 11:27 AM

Without better protection, Mahomes is not the best pocket passer.

Burrow is the best now IMHO.

That ****ing dude takes beating like no other.

FloridaMan88 02-13-2025 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17967532)
Without better protection, Mahomes is not the best pocket passer.

Burrow is the best now IMHO.

That ****ing dude takes beating like no other.

It also helps to be throwing to Chase and Higgins.

KCBlitz 02-13-2025 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17967512)
The Chiefs were #1 in offense in 2022 and weren't particularly explosive.

That’s why the article on referenced the last 2 years. It’s a shit narrative. We need better LT play. Improve the Oline and anything is possible. Sports media since the Super Bowl has acted like the Chiefs run is over because of 1 bad game. It’s stupid.

KCBlitz 02-13-2025 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17967518)
When you have defenses coming out and saying "we wanted to keep the QB in the pocket and make him play QB".....well......

Because they know the Oline won’t hold up if Mahomes is contained in the pocket. If you’re insinuating anything else then that’s on you for not paying attention to Mahomes’s play since day 1.

chiefzilla1501 02-13-2025 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17967504)
That also doesn't factor 2 of the guys with lots of touches Kelce and Hunt aren't explosive in this stage of their careers.

Yeah but interchange kelce and rice, because when rice was there he was a target monster and kelce wasn’t touching the ball (all the more reason I feel like kelces negative impact is a little overstated. If rice is on the field, kelce becomes more of a role player).

Rice is very explosive. But we’ve mostly used him as an efficient target monster with explosiveness after the catch. We haven’t unlocked nearly enough the explosiveness before the catch. So even with rashee in place of kelce and Pacheco in place of hunt, our mentality didn’t really change.


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