When I say luck, I would include negotiating luck such as the Orlando negotiation. Trent Williams used the Chiefs as negotiating leverage to squeeze more money out of the Niners. I don't think Trent was ever truly serious about signing with KC.

Looking back, that's a funny move by Trent Williams. The Chiefs have won 2 rings without Trent and they might have won even more than that if he was their LT from 2021 to now. And Trent is stuck with zero rings on an underachieving team with a loaded roster featuring Void Year contracts out the wazoo. Eat shit, Mr. Williams.

Orlando's gone on record claiming they were close and that he was ready to sign but they wouldn't budge on the guaranteed money. Which I believe. Front office had a tremendous draft that year and they were probably convinced they could outsmart the system and find a rookie LT in the later rounds like the Patriots. Ego.

Brown took a smaller contract with about the same guarantees as the Chiefs offered him. He just decided he was worthy of more "respect" than the Chiefs wanted to give. They weren't cheap, OBJ was unrealistic.

What if he said that extra money means more to him than rings?

Not even sure he got very much extra money when you factor in the insane cost of living in San Francisco compared to Kansas City.

He needs to spend more resources on the offense.


It's gone to shit.

He didn't take a smaller contract. Chiefs were only willing to guarantee 38 million dollars vs the 48 he got with the Bengals. The Chiefs contract was like a two year deal where they could cut Brown and re-coup most of the contract. In 2022 they were fresh off a killer draft and they thought they could play the system so they went cheap.

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I wonder how someone like Darius Slayton or Mike Williams would look in this offense instead of signing Brown and/or Hopkins...

Yeah, I think Veach got a little full of himself after that SB win.

The grand total of difference over the first two years was like $2M. It's not an accurate characterization that the Chiefs went "cheap". It's not like they offered him half of what Cinci did.

Yep, Silverdick played himself

Did Donovan Smith ever speak out? Did the Chiefs ever try and reach out or did he just not want to play anymore?

He's washed.

They went cheap. The Bengals are the definition of a discount best-price team... They had to sell their stadium rights to afford Burrows contract. So for them to out bid the Chiefs is a sign that the front office wasn't committed to Brown. Could have been his attitude or talent, but the results speak for themselves. With the amount of liquidity floating around the KC Chiefs organization if they really wanted too they could have come up with an agreement.

All water under the bridge now. If they're lucky they might snag Alaric Jackson. And if they do it's probably going to break LT contract records.

Bit being committed to Brown is not the same thing as being cheap. If you offered $10 and they wanted $12, being cheap would be letting them walk and buying someone for $8.

The had a premium they didn't want to pay and they didn't. Then they turned around and gave Taylor a wad of cash. That's not the same thing as "cheap".