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Hammock Parties · 11-20-2024, 02:56 AM

Amazing.

Hammock Parties · 11-20-2024, 02:59 AM

https://www.inverse.com/entertainmen...74-unification

Essentially, the film depicts Kirk crossing into some afterlife where he meets an elderly Saavik (Robin Curtis) and Spock’s son, a Vulcan named Sorak (Mark Cinnery). This comes from the 1999 novel Vulcan’s Heart, in which Spock and Saavik are married in the 24th century, and references the implication that Spock and Saavik had a child out of wedlock because they were intimate during The Search for Spock. An unused storyline for The Voyage Home would have shown that Saavik stayed on Vulcan to raise Spock’s son, hence why she didn’t return to Earth with the rest of the crew. As Curtis put it in a new behind-the-scenes video, “Such a juicy tidbit had been left unresolved. Is Saavik pregnant?”

Curtis notes that this short film depicts Saavik much further in the future, so the 68-year-old was aged up to look like an elderly Saavik. Presumably, this is around the year 2387, which would have been when Spock went missing in the Prime Universe and landed in the continuity of the Kelvin Timeline. And Saavik is in “Unification” to send Kirk to that universe, too.

After Kirk meets Saavik, a mysterious alien in a Next Gen-era Starfleet uniform confronts him. This is Yor (played here by Gordon Tarpley), who was introduced in the Discovery Season 3 episode “Terra Firma Part 1.” That episode was the first time mainstream Trek canon acknowledged the Kelvin Universe. Yor, as Dr. Kovich explained, “...traveled forward from 2379 and across from a parallel universe caused by the incursion of a Romulan mining ship.” In other words, Yor is from the future of the Kelvin Universe, not the Prime Universe. So, when he meets Kirk, Yor is transporting Kirk from the Prime Universe to the Kelvin Universe, where Kirk ends up in the final moments of the short.

In Star Trek Beyond, Spock (Zachary Quinto) is told that Old Spock (Nimoy) passed away while the Enterprise was on a mission. This was done to acknowledge the passing of Leonard Nimoy in 2014, but in the context of the Trek canon, Spock’s passing in Beyond was a bit odd. Although born in the Prime Universe, Spock faced his final days in the past of a parallel universe. So in “Unification,” Kirk isn’t just brought across universes, but across time. Considering Kirk passed away on Veridian III in 2371, and Yor is from 2379 — and we see versions of Kirk from 2266 and 2285 — there’s quite a bit of time travel going on here.

When Kirk finally sees Spock, we know he’s in the Kelvin Universe because the little rectangular photo carrier onscreen is the same one from Beyond, which contained a portrait of the classic Enterprise crew. Kirk holds Spock’s hand as the sun sets, and these very old friends are reunited one last time.

The film hints at other aspects of a larger story. At the beginning, the quasi-divine Gary Mitchell is seen floating in some kind of ether, implying that his eternal spirit is aware of Kirk’s post-mortal comings and goings.

Meanwhile, the number “765874” also refers to the serial number of the character J.M Colt, an Enterprise crew member from “The Cage.” Colt appears throughout the short in both an Original Series uniform and a Kelvin Universe uniform, implying she’s perhaps crossed timelines, too. Colt is also seen looking at what might have been Kirk’s skeleton, last seen in the Section 31 vault in Picard Season 3.

In the end, fans might be scratching their heads about the canonical status of all of this, and whether we really needed a de-aged Shatner to share a tender moment with a CGI-faux Leonard Nimoy. The latter is up to you, but everything in this short works in the existing canon. By uniting various eras and continuities of Trek, “765874 - Unification” is unique. And as a nod to the anniversary of Generations, fans will hopefully agree that it’s a wonderful end to one of the most enduring partnerships in science fiction. The short ends with Kirk and Spock staring at the sunset, thinking about life, the universe, and everything. Neither will pass alone. What more could you ask for?

InChiefsHeaven · 11-20-2024, 06:52 AM

Jeeez...****ing nerds...

I did watch it, and it was pretty compelling. Then I read all the gobblety-gook you posted...and it just makes me realize why I'm not a Trekkie.

Good video though.

11-20-2024, 02:56 AM
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11-20-2024, 02:59 AM	#2
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $2380478	https://www.inverse.com/entertainmen...74-unification Essentially, the film depicts Kirk crossing into some afterlife where he meets an elderly Saavik (Robin Curtis) and Spock’s son, a Vulcan named Sorak (Mark Cinnery). This comes from the 1999 novel Vulcan’s Heart, in which Spock and Saavik are married in the 24th century, and references the implication that Spock and Saavik had a child out of wedlock because they were intimate during The Search for Spock. An unused storyline for The Voyage Home would have shown that Saavik stayed on Vulcan to raise Spock’s son, hence why she didn’t return to Earth with the rest of the crew. As Curtis put it in a new behind-the-scenes video, “Such a juicy tidbit had been left unresolved. Is Saavik pregnant?” Curtis notes that this short film depicts Saavik much further in the future, so the 68-year-old was aged up to look like an elderly Saavik. Presumably, this is around the year 2387, which would have been when Spock went missing in the Prime Universe and landed in the continuity of the Kelvin Timeline. And Saavik is in “Unification” to send Kirk to that universe, too. After Kirk meets Saavik, a mysterious alien in a Next Gen-era Starfleet uniform confronts him. This is Yor (played here by Gordon Tarpley), who was introduced in the Discovery Season 3 episode “Terra Firma Part 1.” That episode was the first time mainstream Trek canon acknowledged the Kelvin Universe. Yor, as Dr. Kovich explained, “...traveled forward from 2379 and across from a parallel universe caused by the incursion of a Romulan mining ship.” In other words, Yor is from the future of the Kelvin Universe, not the Prime Universe. So, when he meets Kirk, Yor is transporting Kirk from the Prime Universe to the Kelvin Universe, where Kirk ends up in the final moments of the short. In Star Trek Beyond, Spock (Zachary Quinto) is told that Old Spock (Nimoy) passed away while the Enterprise was on a mission. This was done to acknowledge the passing of Leonard Nimoy in 2014, but in the context of the Trek canon, Spock’s passing in Beyond was a bit odd. Although born in the Prime Universe, Spock faced his final days in the past of a parallel universe. So in “Unification,” Kirk isn’t just brought across universes, but across time. Considering Kirk passed away on Veridian III in 2371, and Yor is from 2379 — and we see versions of Kirk from 2266 and 2285 — there’s quite a bit of time travel going on here. When Kirk finally sees Spock, we know he’s in the Kelvin Universe because the little rectangular photo carrier onscreen is the same one from Beyond, which contained a portrait of the classic Enterprise crew. Kirk holds Spock’s hand as the sun sets, and these very old friends are reunited one last time. The film hints at other aspects of a larger story. At the beginning, the quasi-divine Gary Mitchell is seen floating in some kind of ether, implying that his eternal spirit is aware of Kirk’s post-mortal comings and goings. Meanwhile, the number “765874” also refers to the serial number of the character J.M Colt, an Enterprise crew member from “The Cage.” Colt appears throughout the short in both an Original Series uniform and a Kelvin Universe uniform, implying she’s perhaps crossed timelines, too. Colt is also seen looking at what might have been Kirk’s skeleton, last seen in the Section 31 vault in Picard Season 3. In the end, fans might be scratching their heads about the canonical status of all of this, and whether we really needed a de-aged Shatner to share a tender moment with a CGI-faux Leonard Nimoy. The latter is up to you, but everything in this short works in the existing canon. By uniting various eras and continuities of Trek, “765874 - Unification” is unique. And as a nod to the anniversary of Generations, fans will hopefully agree that it’s a wonderful end to one of the most enduring partnerships in science fiction. The short ends with Kirk and Spock staring at the sunset, thinking about life, the universe, and everything. Neither will pass alone. What more could you ask for? __________________ Chiefs game films
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InChiefsHeaven Rockin' yer FACE OFF! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Casino cash: $1905437	Jeeez...****ing nerds... I did watch it, and it was pretty compelling. Then I read all the gobblety-gook you posted...and it just makes me realize why I'm not a Trekkie. Good video though. __________________ We have a million reasons for failure, but not one excuse... Die Donks, DIE!! Holy Crap fellas!!! We did it!!! THREE TIMES!!!
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