Ty Cobb is second now

[HemiEd]

Baseball Integrates Leaderboards

Major League Baseball officially updated its statistics leaderboard yesterday to include 2,300 qualifying men who played in the Negro Leagues between 1920 and 1948. The integration incorporates findings from a three-year research process initiated after MLB first recognized the Negro Leagues as major leagues in December 2020.



The update reshapes long-standing leaderboards, with legendary power hitter and Hall of Fame catcher Josh Gibson now recognized as the all-time leader in career batting average with a .372 mark, passing prior leader, Ty Cobb. Lifetime numbers from MLB players reflecting their time in the Negro Leagues were also recognized, including those of Jackie Robinson, Willie Mays, and Satchel Paige. See a rundown of leaderboard changes here. https://www.mlb.com/news/stats-leade...ro-leagues-mlb



Tacit bans in the major leagues forced Black players to create their own leagues in the first half of the 20th century. Jackie Robinson broke the sport's racial barrier when he made his debut with the Brooklyn Dodgers in 1947

[kysirsoze]

Love it. It's about time.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by kysirsoze

Love it. It's about time.

I agree and it is so interesting to read about history.

[neech]

Ty Cobb was supposed to be a real jerk anyway, so too bad so sad.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by neech

Ty Cobb was supposed to be a real jerk anyway, so too bad so sad.

It was still a different league. I'm not sure this is the right move, but if that's what major league baseball wants to do more power to them

[kysirsoze]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

It was still a different league. I'm not sure this is the right move, but if that's what major league baseball wants to do more power to them

The obvious racial injustices aside, it's called the major leagues and for a long time there was a third one. It deserves to be recognized. The stats are already muddied by different eras and rules and cheating scandals, etc. Sacrificing a little purity in pursuit of justice and a more truthful telling of the history of the game is the obvious choice.

[stumppy]

Apparently, he was always 2cnd. It's just documented that way now.

[seamonster]

Originally Posted by kysirsoze

The obvious racial injustices aside, it's called the major leagues and for a long time there was a third one. It deserves to be recognized. The stats are already muddied by different eras and rules and cheating scandals, etc. Sacrificing a little purity in pursuit of justice and a more truthful telling of the history of the game is the obvious choice.

So virtuous.

[Monticore]

They should do the same for hockey and add in WHA points for Gretzky and Howe etc.. make their numbers even more ridiculous.

[kysirsoze]

Originally Posted by seamonster

So virtuous.

Glad you found another thread to be a piece of shit in.

[smithandrew051]

I used to be a major purist for Major League Baseball stats, and these used to be sacred to me as a kid.

Then the Steroid Era happened, and the Homerun records became completely unattainable.

Pitching is so different now that those old time records are also unattainable. Winning 20 games is somewhat rare anymore. Imagine doing that 25 straight seasons and still be 11 wins away from Cy Young’s record.

So really, what do the records in baseball mean if no one can break them?

Given that, I don’t have an issue with this.

[BigRichard]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

I used to be a major purist for Major League Baseball stats, and these used to be sacred to me as a kid.

Then the Steroid Era happened, and the Homerun records became completely unattainable.

Pitching is so different now that those old time records are also unattainable. Winning 20 games is somewhat rare anymore. Imagine doing that 25 straight seasons and still be 11 wins away from Cy Young’s record.

So really, what do the records in baseball mean if no one can break them?

Given that, I don’t have an issue with this.

I say this about all the different sports unless they haven't changed the rules at all. The NFL records are such a joke anymore. You have changed the rules so much it isn't the same game it was 30 years ago. You can't compare records from year to year because of that.

[Vladimir_Kyrilytch]

They need to unretire #42 and stop having Jackie Robinson day. All he did was transfer from one major league team to another, a nothing accomplishment. Hundreds of players change organizations every year and it is nothing to celebrate or commemorate.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by Vladimir_Kyrilytch

They need to unretire #42 and stop having Jackie Robinson day. All he did was transfer from one major league team to another, a nothing accomplishment. Hundreds of players change organizations every year and it is nothing to celebrate or commemorate.

Oh my...

[tredadda]

Good for MLB. This is long overdue and the right thing to do. It would have been one thing if African American players had an opportunity to play in the majors but willfully chose not to and start their own league.

They were excluded for a long time and had no options but to form their own league.

This did not negate their stats, because the argument that they did not play against MLB players also would apply to MLB players who did not play against the very best. Many of those players would have been very successful on MLB rosters had they been given the chance.