Offensive line

[O.city]

LT spot has cast somewhat of a shadow on this unit but.....the OL has been just mauling people this year. They're a top 3 unit league wide, just get the LT spot figured and we're golden.

[R Clark]

Just keep chipping away at LT

[DJ's left nut]

Makes the problems we're having at LT all the more frustrating.

I mean c'mon guys - slide some protections or something.

When 4 of your 5 OL are playing at blue-chip level, maybe you could leverage that a bit to keep the 5th guy from getting beaten like a red headed step-child?

And it also makes me think Mahomes needs to man up. Dude, you have one spot to worry about. Which is better than 90% of the league. Maybe put on your big boy pants and set your ****ing feet before you throw, m'kay?

OL play is a mess league-wide and literally 80% of ours is playing at a Pro Bowl level. Let's not act like it's okay to just soil ourselves back there because you don't have 6 seconds to throw the football.

[Kman34]

Taylor has been a pleasant surprise this year.. You have to wonder if they would be better off putting him at left Tackle and the learning young guys at right..

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Makes the problems we're having at LT all the more frustrating.

I mean c'mon guys - slide some protections or something.

When 4 of your 5 OL are playing at blue-chip level, maybe you could leverage that a bit to keep the 5th guy from getting beaten like a red headed step-child?

And it also makes me think Mahomes needs to man up. Dude, you have one spot to worry about. Which is better than 90% of the league. Maybe put on your big boy pants and set your ****ing feet before you throw, m'kay?

OL play is a mess league-wide and literally 80% of ours is playing at a Pro Bowl level. Let's not act like it's okay to just soil ourselves back there because you don't have 6 seconds to throw the football.

That was kinda my thought. You want 5 legit dudes up there, fine, but you're gonna have to take less $ if you want us to go find a LT on the level of these other 4 right away.

To me....this is where the "run around and make plays" stuff comes back to bite us. He's always leaned on that and it tends to hurt his pocket presence. Brady and Peyton were always so great at sliding this way or that way to create a little time. Pat just leaves cleanish pockets too much for my taste right now.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Kman34

Taylor has been a pleasant surprise this year.. You have to wonder if they would be better off putting him at left Tackle and the learning young guys at right..

He's not really been that surprising. This is who he was over the latter 1/3 of the season and into the playoffs. This is who he was in Jacksonville.

He's an athletic guy who has been a plus pass-protector (and spotty run blocker) his entire career. There was plenty of cause to believe he'd be this guy.

And yes, I'd have absolutely considered moving him to LT in the off-season. But at this point, I think that ship has sailed.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He's not really been that surprising. This is who he was over the latter 1/3 of the season and into the playoffs. This is who he was in Jacksonville.

He's an athletic guy who has been a plus pass-protector (and spotty run blocker) his entire career. There was plenty of cause to believe he'd be this guy.

And yes, I'd have absolutely considered moving him to LT in the off-season. But at this point, I think that ship has sailed.

If you were gonna do it....last year was the year no?

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by Kman34

Taylor has been a pleasant surprise this year.. You have to wonder if they would be better off putting him at left Tackle and the learning young guys at right..

I'm not sure I would do that at this point. He's playing really well on the Right, i wouldn't want to eff that up by moving him and having him relearn the Left side... potentially causing issues at both tackle spots. I dunno, i'd just be careful because he's lightyears better than last year right now but how fragile of a situation is it?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

If you were gonna do it....last year was the year no?

Again, you're preaching to the choir. That was my plan for him BEFORE we even signed him.

Yes, I think he was a natural LT convert.

The front office disagreed then. They disagreed this summer.

It seems pretty unlikely they're gonna suddenly agree with me this fall.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Now had they done that in the offseason, okay. Or maybe this coming offseason.... But mid-season? i'm just not sure if that works out well.

[Balto]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Makes the problems we're having at LT all the more frustrating.

I mean c'mon guys - slide some protections or something.

When 4 of your 5 OL are playing at blue-chip level, maybe you could leverage that a bit to keep the 5th guy from getting beaten like a red headed step-child?

And it also makes me think Mahomes needs to man up. Dude, you have one spot to worry about. Which is better than 90% of the league. Maybe put on your big boy pants and set your ****ing feet before you throw, m'kay?

OL play is a mess league-wide and literally 80% of ours is playing at a Pro Bowl level. Let's not act like it's okay to just soil ourselves back there because you don't have 6 seconds to throw the football.

Like Kman said, put Taylor at LT already.

If Pat only has to worry about one spot it might as well be the spot he can what’s coming more easily than on his blind side.

It’s like yes the entire OL is playing on a pro bowl level except the spot that’s the most important!

Need a plane to start flying, JT to LT

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Again, you're preaching to the choir. That was my plan for him BEFORE we even signed him.

Yes, I think he was a natural LT convert.

The front office disagreed then. They disagreed this summer.

It seems pretty unlikely they're gonna suddenly agree with me this fall.

Oh at this point, they're not moving him. Which is fine with me, but the LT spot needs to be long termed......I'm a "just play the rookie and help him" guy

[O.city]

Andy isn't moving his RT to LT in season. I've got a better chance of playign QB than that happening.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Balto

Like Kman said, put Taylor at LT already.

If Pat only has to worry about one spot it might as well be the spot he can what’s coming more easily than on his blind side.

It’s like yes the entire OL is playing on a pro bowl level except the spot that’s the most important!

Need a plane to start flying, JT to LT

Blind sides are still a thing, yes.

But not as much as they used to be.

The 'blind side' as we came to know it was born of under-center snaps and QBs having to take 5 step drops, usually parallel to the rusher, with his back to the guy the whole time.

We work so much out of shotgun and take shorter drops. We also start from a spot deeper behind the line so the QB has an angle to actually see the rusher coming from the left side.

The issue with the 'blind side' for shotgun heavy offenses is diminished from where it was when teams played so much under center. The bigger issue is that there's no TE over that side for most offenses so the player is on an island.

In our offense, that's the case on BOTH sides of the line since we don't use our TE in-line very often.

So in moving Taylor over to LT from RT, you're not actually addressing the biggest issue our OTs face because Morris or Kingsley would face that same problem on the right side - no TE help.

And in the process you've potentially created TWO problem areas where there was only one.

It's a bad idea. It's a fine experiment in the off-season, but it's not something you do mid-year.

[Sassy Squatch]

Just sucks the weakest part of Suamataias game, getting beaten quickly to the inside, is so hard to cover up without dedicating an extra man there at all times, and even that may not help much.


Hopefully whatever flaws are causing this in his technique can be hammered out, quickly, because everything Mahomes, Reid, and the organization as a whole have done would indicate they don't trust Morris to do his job.