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Old 12-10-2017, 02:10 PM  
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Derek Carr ****ing sucks

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Old 12-29-2022, 03:03 PM   #1456
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But why would Carr go there? He's going to have his pick. I know it seems perfect for Indy's side but I'm not sure what he gains by going there.

He should go to the NFC probably
Washington would be a really good landing place for him. Good receiving corps. Tough defense. Rivera is a good coach. Carr in Washington would be quite interesting.
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Old 12-29-2022, 03:04 PM   #1457
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I'm trying to wrap my head around who the hell would want him as a starter. Backup maybe.
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Old 12-29-2022, 03:40 PM   #1458
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I'm trying to wrap my head around who the hell would want him as a starter. Backup maybe.
I think Carr can have a winning season if he has a good/great defense and the new coach plays to his strengths (lets him have input).

Washington would be a great fit for Carr.
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Old 12-29-2022, 03:56 PM   #1459
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Other than Carr being a raider and sucking as a QB I have no reason to hate him. He seems like a genuinely good dude. And what they're doing to him is total bullshit.

This reeks of josh trying to find a guy to lob under the bus like the weasel he is. Surprise surprise that the new QB is a long time patriot. We all know what happens next. McDaniels will turn this into patriots west. Probably makes a big plays for Jimmy G. Hell, maybe even Brady. Its delightful. Mosf NFL teams have FINALLY moved on from this and the raiders are going to triple down on it.

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Old 12-29-2022, 03:59 PM   #1460
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I would not be surprised if Raiders offer him to stay on an extension that is 25 % reduction in AAV.

I think this benching is just to avoid having to pay him in on an injury.

Raiders seem to have better in house morale than folks are supposing.

Carr seems a good fit for Waller, Adams and other receivers.
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Old 12-29-2022, 04:00 PM   #1461
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I would not be surprised if Raiders offer him to stay on an extension that is 25 % reduction in AAV.

I think this benching is just to avoid having to pay him in on an injury.

Raiders seem to have better in house morale than folks are supposing.

Carr seems a good fit for Waller, Adams and other receivers.

Carr isn't even in the building anymore. He's 100% gone.

This was probably the plan from the moment McDaniels was hired.
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Old 12-29-2022, 04:20 PM   #1462
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Carr isn't even in the building anymore. He's 100% gone.

This was probably the plan from the moment McDaniels was hired.
So would you put some money on it at some odds like 100-1?

He is being benched, because if he is injured such that he does not pass physical on March 1st from a football injury his 2023 salary is guaranteed.

He is out of the building because it is so nakedly a move to make him expendable.

That does not mean that Raiders find a better solution than keeping Carr, if he agrees to rework his deal for less AAV.
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Old 12-29-2022, 04:33 PM   #1463
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Are you asking me to BET you, because you so believe that this is somehow going to happen? It's all a ruse to get him back on a better contract?


lmao dude you are living in dreamland. Maybe re-direct your efforts here:


https://www.change.org/p/get-josh-mcdaniels-fired
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Old 12-29-2022, 04:46 PM   #1464
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This is the correct move. Possibly a #3 pick if they lose out and they should be able to draft a QB.

Chiefs fans will be ecstatic if the Raiders draft a potential franchise QB.
QBs in this draft are not franchise type QBs. They are QBs that get GMs fired.
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Old 12-29-2022, 04:50 PM   #1465
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Old 12-29-2022, 04:52 PM   #1466
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So would you put some money on it at some odds like 100-1?

He is being benched, because if he is injured such that he does not pass physical on March 1st from a football injury his 2023 salary is guaranteed.

He is out of the building because it is so nakedly a move to make him expendable.

That does not mean that Raiders find a better solution than keeping Carr, if he agrees to rework his deal for less AAV.
I call BS. You don't make this move if you're not tanking and have an outside shot at a playoff game. And you don't bench a guy you're trying to trade after a bad game. You're acting like McDaniels and Davis don't have a long history of being vindictive weasels.

They're lobbing Carr under the bus. It's McDaniels' way to write the off-season narrative that it's all Carrs fault. It's McDaniels' chance to plug his patriot guy in so they can transition into a full on patriot way redux and Davis is exactly the type to get suckered into it.

There is so little to gain by starting stidham. And a lot to lose by revealing these guys character to be what many forgot they were. It's two games. Let the game finish his time there with a shred of dignity. This isnt some strategic move. It's petty and small.
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Old 12-29-2022, 04:57 PM   #1467
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Are you asking me to BET you, because you so believe that this is somehow going to happen? It's all a ruse to get him back on a better contract?


lmao dude you are living in dreamland. Maybe re-direct your efforts here:


https://www.change.org/p/get-josh-mcdaniels-fired
Yuk, yuk.

I posted in response to nobody that I would not be surprised if Carr is back on a deal that has less AAV.

Raiders record this year seems to have much more to do with Waller being injured and cutting all the defensive players who underperformed their draft position and completely blowing big leads. Seems like Raiders need to figure out how they want to play defense and what players they need to do that.

Raiders are not too far away from being a contender and keeping Carr may be the best option they come up with. They are definitely ready to explore options, but I say keeping Carr on a renegotiated deal is more possible than folks are saying.
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I call BS. You don't make this move if you're not tanking and have an outside shot at a playoff game. And you don't bench a guy you're trying to trade after a bad game. You're acting like McDaniels and Davis don't have a long history of being vindictive weasels.

They're lobbing Carr under the bus. It's McDaniels' way to write the off-season narrative that it's all Carrs fault. It's McDaniels' chance to plug his patriot guy in so they can transition into a full on patriot way redux and Davis is exactly the type to get suckered into it.

There is so little to gain by starting stidham. And a lot to lose by revealing these guys character to be what many forgot they were. It's two games. Let the game finish his time there with a shred of dignity. This isnt some strategic move. It's petty and small.
They are benching him because if he sustains a football injury that does not heal by March 1st. They have no option but to pay him his full 2023.

I agree that it is a dick move and an admission that his contract was puffed up to sound better than it really was.

I agree that it could impact team morale after this year. I think if the #7 seed in the AFC gets to 9 wins, the players are not going to see this as a move that cost them a chance at the playoffs.

It would be a helluva thing if Davis and McDaniels think Brady signing there is what they are trying to set up. That seems like it has to end badly but I suppose time will tell.
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