Rashee Rice [legal issues megathread]

[DaFace]

The other thread is a dumpster fire. I'm sure this will become one as well, but might as well start with a clean slate. I'll at least try to keep the OP updated with any notable news. Feel free to PM me if I miss anything good.

Arrest warrant and potential charges:

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BREAKING: An arrest warrant has been issued for Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver Rashee Rice in connection to his involvement in a multi-vehicle crash on U.S. 75 in Dallas in late March, sources tell WFAA. https://t.co/XL3F7oCuW1

— WFAA (@wfaa) April 10, 2024

Rice, 23, now faces eight charges in the case -- six counts of collision involving bodily injury, one count of collision involving serious bodily injury and one count of aggravated assault, according to the arrest warrant. All of the charges are felonies.

Collision involving injury carries a penalty of imprisonment in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice for not more than five years or confinement in the county jail for not more than one year, a fine fine not to exceed $5,000 or both. Collision involving serious bodily injury -- a third-degree felony -- carries a punishment of imprisonment in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice of not more than 10 years or less than 2 years. Aggravated assault -- a second-degree felony -- is punishable by two to 20 years in prison and a fine of up to $10,000.

Analysis from a defense attorney:

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Originally Posted by DaFace

This is a pretty good thread from a defense attorney on the matter.

TL;DR, his concern was at a 2, and now it's a 4 (out of 10). Still probably not a huge deal, but there are some concerning possibilities. Overall, though, he thinks it all gets pled down to misdemeanors, he misses a couple of games, and he writes some massive checks to those he injured.

Turned himself in and now out on bail:

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Originally Posted by In58men

Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver Rashee Rice has turned himself in to police after a warrant was issued for his arrest on Wednesday evening. https://t.co/rSp9IRRlFn pic.twitter.com/GlK4sB1XJM

— FOX4 News Kansas City (@fox4kc) April 12, 2024

Originally Posted by In58men

New avatar!!!

BREAKING: DeSoto PD releases #RasheeRice's booking photo.

Again, the Kansas City Chiefs receiver is no longer in the DeSoto Jail after posting a $40k bond.

(@wfaa) pic.twitter.com/IegZg3GFtL

— Matt Howerton (@HowertonNews) April 12, 2024

Random minutiae:

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

#Chiefs WR Rashee Rice and former SMU CB Theodore Knox are being sued for $1 million by two victims of the March 30 crash in Dallas, Texas, for severe injuries, including 'trauma to the brain, lacerations to the face requiring stitches, multiple contusions about the body,… pic.twitter.com/RlDvilVLi6

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) April 15, 2024

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

#Chiefs Patrick Mahomes said he's worked with Rashee Rice throughout the offseason and will continue to do so while the legal process plays out for Rice..

— PJ Green (@PJGreenTV) April 15, 2024

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Goodell cares too much about the screechers on those sites. That's the problem

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni

Goodell cares too much about the screechers on those sites. That's the problem

Yeah - that's a fair concern.

"Protecting the Shield" unfortunately means, to him, responding to the caterwauling from the also-rans...

[Kiimo]

I think the person who should be angriest about all this is Calvin Ridley

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by staylor26

The only reason I give a shit about the Rice situation and have followed up with it is because he's a Chief, but there's no scenario where I'd be outraged over a rival team's player street racing and calling for a full season suspension.

Yea, like I said earlier, this incident is pretty much off everyone's radar already. Well if you aren't a Chiefs fan.

That's also why I don't think the video is much of a big deal especially considering I expected it to look much worse before I watched it. Its actually better it was out there early on rather than some months after the fact release like the Kareem Hunt deal.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Kiimo

I think the person who should be angriest about all this is Calvin Ridley

Nah, the NFL makes it clear what happens if you bet on football and they can't afford to be lenient on that topic.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I think you're both entrenched and trying to argue absolutes.

You’re right about him, wrong about me. I’ve made my position very clear from the start and also had his (very shitty) argument pegged from the very start.

Let’s review.

This was the initial post of his that I responded to:

Originally Posted by staylor26

Also, just want to point out that there was WAY more outrage over Rice than Sutton. Most people don't even know about the Sutton story. It's not like the Lions are irrelevant any more either.

It's all because Rice is a Chief, and our success.

I jumped in and just added the quick little addendum that Rice’s incident is on video and that makes any story hit harder and last longer. Seems obvious enough.

We went back and forth for a while where he was mostly arguing shit I never argued and telling me I’m an idiot (feel free to go back and re-read if you wanna lose some brain cells).

You can see in multiple posts here me correctly pegging his shoddy, inaccurate argument and him doubling down every time.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

You made the claim that there’s been more outrage over Rice than Sutton, claiming it was “ALL because of our success” and I offered a different perspective - the video.

His retort:

Originally Posted by staylor26

It is all because our success.

You can even see in this post below that I reiterated that I do not disagree with the idea that NFL fans want bad things to happen to our players.

I also once again gave him an out by calling out his baseless argument and he replied with the post that you quoted not long ago with the Rice situation.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Anyone with a brain knows the player’s status and the team they play for has an impact on opposing team fan outrage. No one in this thread has denied that.

…

The issue is, he claims it’s ALL because of the fact that Rashee is a Chief and that is simply untrue. Be realistic for one minute. The fact that it was caught on video 100% makes it worse in the public eye. It plays a huge factor. Like you say, no video, this was a blip of a story that has legs in the community for like 2 days. With video, it’s dragged on for weeks or more. The deliberation is longer, penalty is harsher, etc.

This ****ing dipshit just won’t admit it. Idk what’s up with him. He’s such a ****ing weirdo. He’d rather try to drag it out with his shitty false equivalence about the Sutton incident bot being the same as Rice’s. As if that’s the argument I was making.

In conclusion, Staylor can get ****ed!

[Mile High Mania]

Really wish they would decide on what will happen.. great keeper value that I would like to leverage.

[Sassy Squatch]

The league's just erratic as ****. And when the wheel spins round, sometimes it lands on us to eat the biscuit.

It's this. It's always been this. It always will be this. Except 'the league' should be replaced with Roger Goodell.

[Sassy Squatch]

Remember when Goodell suspended Ezekiel Elliot 6 games based only on accusations to sack tap Jerry Jones and show him his place and it resulted in a nearly season long legal battle involving multiple courts? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

It’s also possible that one of them was on the verge of dying and they were racing to the hospital to save his life. It’s also possible their cars malfunctioned.

Exactly. I’m sure the league wants everything relevant to come out before making a decision on any suspensions.

It wouldn’t be a great look if they give him 2 games and information leaks that it was worse, or that exonerates him.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

You’re right about him, wrong about me. I’ve made my position very clear from the start and also had his (very shitty) argument pegged from the very start.

Let’s review.

This was the initial post of his that I responded to:



I jumped in and just added the quick little addendum that Rice’s incident is on video and that makes any story hit harder and last longer. Seems obvious enough.

We went back and forth for a while where he was mostly arguing shit I never argued and telling me I’m an idiot (feel free to go back and re-read if you wanna lose some brain cells).

You can see in multiple posts here me correctly pegging his shoddy, inaccurate argument and him doubling down every time.



His retort:



You can even see in this post below that I reiterated that I do not disagree with the idea that NFL fans want bad things to happen to our players.

I also once again gave him an out by calling out his baseless argument and he replied with the post that you quoted not long ago with the Rice situation.



In conclusion, Staylor can get ****ed!

To be honest it IS more due to our success and less on the video. The outrage was insane BEFORE the video

[DJ's left nut]

"All" is one of those 'leading with your chin' words I was referring to.

Hard to maneuver around that one. All, always, never, only, etc... - all words that pretty much lock you in and make any argument incredibly easy to defeat.

If you say it "Only happens when..." and someone can demonstrate 1 time out of 10,000 when that wasn't the case, then technically you're just wrong. You led with your chin and got punched in the jaw.

Get your gloves up. "It's primarily because of our success" or "It's largely..." or even "almost entirely" or predominantly or any other $10 word you want. Gives you an actual basis of debate.

But when you start saying all and only, you're probably a dead man walking.

Because there are CHIEFS fans that wanted the guy vivisected. And they certainly don't begrudge the chiefs for their success. So it's clearly not all because of the Chiefs success.

Its a large and, IMO, the primary reason for it. But it isn't the only reason.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

You’re right about him, wrong about me. I’ve made my position very clear from the start and also had his (very shitty) argument pegged from the very start.

Let’s review.

This was the initial post of his that I responded to:



I jumped in and just added the quick little addendum that Rice’s incident is on video and that makes any story hit harder and last longer. Seems obvious enough.

We went back and forth for a while where he was mostly arguing shit I never argued and telling me I’m an idiot (feel free to go back and re-read if you wanna lose some brain cells).

You can see in multiple posts here me correctly pegging his shoddy, inaccurate argument and him doubling down every time.



His retort:



You can even see in this post below that I reiterated that I do not disagree with the idea that NFL fans want bad things to happen to our players.

I also once again gave him an out by calling out his baseless argument and he replied with the post that you quoted not long ago with the Rice situation.



In conclusion, Staylor can get ****ed!

You can keep trying to pretend you won this argument, but you lost back when you started avoiding me hammering the Kamara comparison.

A more brutal violent act, caught on tape, a slap on the wrist after playing a full ****ing season. Zero outrage.

[DJ's left nut]

And Virus, it does seem like you're a bit entrenched in playing semantics. Yes, he said "all" but I don't believe he means that every single fan pissed off at Rice is pissed off at Rice only because the Chiefs are good.

There were at least some number of fans pissed at Echols and he's completely irrelevant. And the Jets ain't good. Staylor knows this, as do you.

Like I said, argue degrees if you want - there seems some reasonable basis for debate there. But lord almighty, I haven't read 90% of the last 100 or so posts because...who cares?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

And Virus, it does seem like you're a bit entrenched in playing semantics. Yes, he said "all" but I don't believe he means that every single fan pissed off at Rice is pissed off at Rice only because the Chiefs are good.

There were at least some number of fans pissed at Echols and he's completely irrelevant. And the Jets ain't good. Staylor knows this, as do you.

Like I said, argue degrees if you want - there seems some reasonable basis for debate there. But lord almighty, I haven't read 90% of the last 100 or so posts because...who cares?

Of course I ****ing don't. I'm clearly being hyperbolic to emphasize that it's an overwhelming majority and there's really no point in arguing the small % of outliers. The rule vs. the exception. I have a habit of doing this, but it's just how I talk.

Normally I would've clarified, but there's no point when you're arguing with Virus. He even at one point changed to "it's not happening". He will just continue to play contrarian.