Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-27-2017, 07:19 PM  
Dante84 Dante84 is offline
Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs
 
Dante84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: ATX & OPKS
Casino cash: $-28004
VARSITY
*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****

IT ****ING HAPPENED



OP UPDATE:

Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!

Last edited by Dante84; 05-17-2017 at 09:40 AM..
Posts: 20,075
Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2018, 09:37 AM   #14221
Bowser Bowser is offline
sorta mod-ish
 
Bowser's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: KC North
Casino cash: $1741616
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach View Post
He did. Initially during live speed, I wasn't so sure, but his foot and body motion didn't jive of where the ball normally would have gone.

This is the play I'm talking about.


Bless Anthony Sherman's little heart. He's doing all he can to get up there and lead block for Tyreek, just giving it all he's got, and is getting absolutely smoked by Hill. Lol. (And there was a part of me wanting to see if Tyreek could chase down Addae on that near fumble, haha)

Quote:
Originally Posted by -King- View Post
Because you can't have great plays AND have a great completion percentage huh? Gotta choose one or the other.

Guess Rodgers and Brees have been doing it wrong this whole time.
Posted via Mobile Device
I just like that we're already setting the bar at Rodgers and Brees for Mahomes.
Posts: 103,746
Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2018, 09:39 AM   #14222
SAUTO SAUTO is offline
Shit
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Casino cash: $10039067
hill would have caught addae...
Posts: 55,715
SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2018, 09:40 AM   #14223
Bowser Bowser is offline
sorta mod-ish
 
Bowser's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: KC North
Casino cash: $1741616
And look, if Andy could build up Kevin ****ing Kolb and trade him for a second rounder(!), I have every confidence that he will get Pat's completion percentage into the mid 60's as an average.
Posts: 103,746
Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2018, 09:40 AM   #14224
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is offline
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $1179099
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Pest View Post
I legit had tears in my eyes and the biggest ****ing smile on my face after that throw.
I had to go see a doctor.

Yeah, I don't think I can buy the "not enough people are talking about that throw" line - EVERYONE is talking about that throw. Holy shit it was magnificent. That throw and the dart to Watkins to set up the TD (to DAT?) were his two best pure throws of the game. Absolutely remarkable throws.

The slant may have been his most impressive play because of the pressure, the odd throwing angle and the remarkable precision/velocity, but when you're talking just ungodly ball placement, the throw to Sherman is pretty much impossible to beat.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 63,171
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2018, 09:40 AM   #14225
The Franchise The Franchise is offline
Most Valuable Villain
 
The Franchise's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2006
Casino cash: $2555047
Quote:
Originally Posted by SAUTO View Post
hill would have caught addae...
I watched a video after the game yesterday that was talking about that play where Hill was chasing down Addae. Basically DAT's TD should have been Tyreek's TD but Hill had just ran after Addae and the Chiefs wanted to give him a breather after that.
Posts: 92,316
The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2018, 09:43 AM   #14226
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is offline
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $1179099
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Pest View Post
And I think we'll see more of that out of him from here on out. I don't know if that first half was Reid just seeing what he could do with everything on his shoulders or just letting him go balls to the wall or what. I think the punt return for a TD had a lot to do with it. 3 points allowed in the first two drives by the defense and we were up 7.
The 2nd to last drive of the 2nd and the first drive of the 3rd were attempts by Reid to reign him in, IMO. That's why he got back on the running game a little.

Pat was ****ing GEEKED. That's why I say he was falling into some bad TT habits; guy was inching towards balls to the walls, hair on fire, playground football. We'll love that when we're down 13 in the 4th but there are times that needs to be controlled somewhat and I think Reid did a nice job of slowing things up a bit for him, getting his feet back under him and calming him down.

He played far more composed in the 2nd half and I think those 2 drives were a big part of that.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 63,171
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2018, 09:43 AM   #14227
The Franchise The Franchise is offline
Most Valuable Villain
 
The Franchise's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2006
Casino cash: $2555047
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut View Post
I had to go see a doctor.

Yeah, I don't think I can buy the "not enough people are talking about that throw" line - EVERYONE is talking about that throw. Holy shit it was magnificent. That throw and the dart to Watkins to set up the TD (to DAT?) were his two best pure throws of the game. Absolutely remarkable throws.

The slant may have been his most impressive play because of the pressure, the odd throwing angle and the remarkable precision/velocity, but when you're talking just ungodly ball placement, the throw to Sherman is pretty much impossible to beat.
That throw was crazy because I saw him release the ball and the second I figured out it was Sherman.....I was laughing my ass off. And then that little ****er caught the ball and ran it in.....I was dying.
Posts: 92,316
The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2018, 09:43 AM   #14228
chiefzilla1501 chiefzilla1501 is online now
In Search of a Life
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Casino cash: $254497
Quote:
Originally Posted by -King- View Post
I never said Mahomes can't or won't improve. Just saying he wasn't very efficient this game. I believe he will come to be more efficient. And as much as we all love him always looking for the deep play, sometimes he does need to check it down. Sometimes he does need to just hit Kelce for the 5-10 yard gains. Sometimes, he shouldn't stretch plays out trying to get the home run. Like at the end of the half yesterday, he shouldnt have rolled out all the way to the right to theow into the end zone. That wasted precious seconds that could have helped us get into field goal position and put more points up on the board.
Posted via Mobile Device
Might be a problem of small sample size. We didn't have many offensive drives. Between tyreeks punt return td, the desperation play at the end of the first half, and Andy Reid running Reid ball to protect the lead... Mahomes didn't get a ton of snaps. Doubt anyone outside of kc realizes how much that impacts his passing totals. The second and third quarter are really the best snapshot of if mahomes can manage a game. And I thought he did that superbly. People may point to the highlight reel tyreek hill throw. But to me piecing together back to back brilliantly efficient 11 play drives given the heat won us the game. Think it should be noted that mahomes had a few very long drives in the preseason too. That's a part of his game I don't know many of us may have expected this time last year.
Posts: 49,817
chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2018, 09:44 AM   #14229
The Franchise The Franchise is offline
Most Valuable Villain
 
The Franchise's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2006
Casino cash: $2555047
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut View Post
The 2nd to last drive of the 2nd and the first drive of the 3rd were attempts by Reid to reign him in, IMO. That's why he got back on the running game a little.

Pat was ****ing GEEKED. That's why I say he was falling into some bad TT habits; guy was inching towards balls to the walls, hair on fire, playground football. We'll love that when we're down 13 in the 4th but there are times that needs to be controlled somewhat and I think Reid did a nice job of slowing things up a bit for him, getting his feet back under him and calming him down.

He played far more composed in the 2nd half and I think those 2 drives were a big part of that.
What was crazy to me on those two long drives is that there wasn't ever really a time where I was worried that we weren't going to get 1st downs or get some points out of it. He had what.....one three and out yesterday?
Posts: 92,316
The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2018, 09:47 AM   #14230
MIAdragon MIAdragon is offline
Someone pass the antifreeze
 
MIAdragon's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Miami (North Cuba)
Casino cash: $-252181
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Pest View Post
What was crazy to me on those two long drives is that there wasn't ever really a time where I was worried that we weren't going to get 1st downs or get some points out of it. He had what.....one three and out yesterday?
And that one was a result of shitty play calling not on him.
Posts: 15,844
MIAdragon has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MIAdragon has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MIAdragon has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MIAdragon has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MIAdragon has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MIAdragon has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MIAdragon has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MIAdragon has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MIAdragon has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MIAdragon has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MIAdragon has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2018, 09:49 AM   #14231
Easy 6 Easy 6 is offline
pie is never free
 
Easy 6's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: the drivers seat
Casino cash: $1867775
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Pest View Post
I legit had tears in my eyes and the biggest ****ing smile on my face after that throw.
Absolutely... when your QB is throwing go routes to the fullback, well, it just doesnt get any better than that
Posts: 94,795
Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2018, 09:51 AM   #14232
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is offline
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $1179099
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Pest View Post
What was crazy to me on those two long drives is that there wasn't ever really a time where I was worried that we weren't going to get 1st downs or get some points out of it. He had what.....one three and out yesterday?
At least 2; I actually thought closer to 3 or 4. He had 2 straight to end the 1st and start the 2nd (though in fairness, Watkins drop likely created the 1st one).

Then came the rushing drive after LA scored to bring it to 14-12. That was almost all rushing and designed short passes to calm shit down and get a FG on the board. It was really great game management from Andy that nobody will give him credit for because nobody ever does when he does something smart.

If we go out there and whip it around 3 times for a 3rd straight three and out then SD gets a FG to take the lead, things look a lot different going into halftime. That drive was enormous because it evened Pat's pulse a bit, IMO.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 63,171
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2018, 09:54 AM   #14233
stevieray stevieray is offline
best in the biz
 
stevieray's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Under Pressure
Casino cash: $725273
That slant to Hill made my jaw drop..it was just so....kickass.

That touch on the sausage ball was also a thing of beauty. (play worked in practice)

and the crazy part?

He's only going to get better.
Posts: 72,827
stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2018, 09:56 AM   #14234
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is offline
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $1179099
Quote:
Originally Posted by stevieray View Post
That slant to Hill made my jaw drop..it was just so....kickass.

That touch on the sausage ball was also a thing of beauty. (play worked in practice)

and the crazy part?

He's only going to get better.
Yup.

To act like he didn't make mistakes yesterday is to do a disservice to how good he CAN be.

That was a heck of a game yesterday, but it's about 60% of what Mahomes can be. Now at his best, a lot of that improvement will go to propping up the roster chaff we'll inevitably have to surround him with when he's making insane amounts of money and gobbling up our cap space, but for the next 3 years as he improves and doesn't cost much, it's gonna be a hell of a ride.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 63,171
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2018, 10:00 AM   #14235
-King- -King- is offline
▓▓▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▓▓
 
-King-'s Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2009
Casino cash: $625743
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut View Post
I'll say the same thing about the drops that I said about them when people made excuses for Cassel and Smith.

I. Don't. Care.

EVERYONE has drops. Every QB in the league has drops and most of them have a roughly equivalent amount. Some have a few more, some a few less but in the end they come out in the wash.

A 55% completion percentage isn't terribly good. And yes, some were dropped, but Hill also made a one handed catch while spinning around into double (triple?) coverage on an underthrown ball and landed on his damn head. That play had little to do with Mahomes. The 2 'completions' on shovel passes? That shit evens out.

He needs to get that completion% up a bit if for no other reason than to give the defense more of a blow. They were pretty damn gassed out there because Mahomes missed a couple balls that could've extended drives. Not a ton, mind you, but a couple. And as a general rule I'll take his aggressiveness over a 70% completion%.

But if he needs to take one or two fewer kamikazee strikes down the field to get that rate up to 60% or so, he probably should. That's kinda a bright red line to me - he needs to stay above that or he's not playing complementary football. It's exciting football, but he'd be doing a pretty major disservice to his defense. 70% means you're probably being a chickenshit. 50-55% means you're putting a lot of pressure on your defense and this defense ain't gonna stand up to that.

60ish% and a good YPA means you're pressing downfield when it's there, keeping defenses honest and keeping drives alive. And when he gets to be truly elite; peak Mahomes (he's nowhere near that yet), he may be able to challenge that 70% without a hiccup and without dialing down aggression. Right now he's not quite there (the throw to Kelce that he rifled for no real reason in the end zone being one of those examples). There's room to improve here and I am confident he will.

And yes, that 60% will be inclusive of drops because drops happen, gents. Just accept that and move along.
This.
Posted via Mobile Device
Posts: 64,442
-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:47 PM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.