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Old 06-27-2016, 11:23 AM  
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Old 07-10-2024, 07:38 PM   #14026
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All you have to do is pull up the stock and look at the share price, they all started at $20 inception and you can see their dividend history here:

https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activi...vidend-history

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I track them all monthly so I've learned which ones work and which ones don't .
Which ones do you recommend? Which ones don’t work?
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Old 07-10-2024, 07:46 PM
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Old 07-10-2024, 08:55 PM   #14027
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NVDY 103% 1 year return, NVDA 217% 1 year return.

MSTY -12.74% 3 month return, MSTR -9.3% 3 month return.

TSLY -16.13% 1 year return, TSLA -4.07% 1 year return.

They are still underperforming just owning the actual shares instead, as total return is all the matters. You also miss out on the tremendous upside of a stock too, such as looking at NVDA. You'd have tripled your money owning actual NVDA shares instead of NVDY that only doubled. It lagged the NVDA move by 100+%!!!!

What happens to these yield max funds when these stocks drop significantly? Is that where the benefit/less risk comes in? It doesn't seem like it because look at TSLY dropping siginficantly more than TSLA in their bad last year.
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Old 07-10-2024, 09:17 PM
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Old 07-10-2024, 09:55 PM   #14028
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I show MSTY on my spreadsheet on 5/3/24 at 29.49 it's paid dividends of 2.52, 3.03, 2.33 since for a total of 7.88 which is a 26.7% return on investment in 3 months meaning in 12 months all your initial investment is returned and everything after that is free money, Doesn't matter if the share price has gone up or down. It's all free money after that. That's the way dividend investors look at these.
The current stock price is 25.26, for a "loss" of 14.3% on the capital. At some point if the capital gets eaten up, they'll do a reverse split like TSLY has already had to do and when you lose shares, you lose dividend income paired with loss in capital.

You are still taking on inherent downside risk while limiting the upside you could be getting on a major move up like NVDA has shown. It just makes little sense.

Using the "dividend" as free money argument is so misleading when capital (share price) continues to decline with downside moves.

I think if you time an entry well you could do well for 6-12 months, but then I would move on. If you had picked TSLY last year, you'd have been ****ed.
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Old 07-10-2024, 10:01 PM   #14029
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SPYI QQQY FEPI are ones you should maybe consider. Not one specifically for NVDA as the underlying and such.
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Old 07-10-2024, 10:34 PM
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Old 07-24-2024, 02:55 PM   #14034
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At this point I feel like I'm holding TSLA just because doing taxes on stock sales is really ****ing annoying to me even though it's simple (even though the auto filler literally never works).

I even find myself laughing at hardcore TSLA holders when stupid shit happens with Elon/Tesla updates even though I'm a holder myself. What a situation I find myself in.
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Weight Watchers (WW) is down to .89 and is laying off a bunch of people and is cutting 100M in expenses.

GLP-1 killed weight watchers.

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GLP-1 killed weight watchers.

Interesting.
It sounds like they're really cutting the fat.

I didn't think about the drugs killing Industries like this. You'd think that people would still want the social support and diet support.
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