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Our minor league sucks so bad we have to be more protective of the assets we actually have. If we had a talented and deep farm system it would make more sense to trade guys.
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The whole "let's have a fire sale and restock the system" is mostly nonsense. Ragans is a nice player obviously, but nobody is giving up their entire farm system for a guy with 2 TJ surgeries and barely one whole year of success. Lugo is a nice story, but he's 34 and has never pitched more than 146 innings in a season. The return isn't going to be massive there either. Salvy has maybe one more year in him, if that. If we got say, the 50th best prospect(around what Verlander got last year) and the 78th best prospect and some other fringe prospects for all of those guys, are we really all sitting around thrilled at where the team is at? I doubt it. That doesn't put us in the top 10 of minor league systems. There still aren't any cant miss guys. The future is just as unsettled as if we traded away some of our guys at the deadline this year. |
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#1383 |
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You're one of those dumb shits that keeps ignoring the fact that you don't have to give up much of anything to improve this team.
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#1386 |
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I don't really see why people keep saying this. It has no basis in the last 5-10 years of baseball transactions and how teams treat trades. The closest to Ragans that I can find is when the Rays shipped Snell to the Padres with two years left of control in 2020. All that netted them was the 25th-ish best prospect and 3 other players, none of which were top 100 prospects. This is for a guy who already had a cy young and without the massive injury history of Regans. And that big prospect, a pitcher, is already out of the majors. None of the other guys did anything and it was a big loss for the Rays. So is one top 100 prospect and some mediocre other guys really worth trading Regans? People keep acting like Regans is a sure fire bet to bring in multiple top 100 guys and we will just be loaded in the minors, when in reality there is nothing pointing this actually happening because teams just don't do that anymore except in generational talent cases.
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Why not trade singer for a couple bullpen arms and move Bubic to the rotation. Singer has a 2.9x era on the season, could be a good candidate.
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Yeah he'd bring back an absolute haul. It's not like a team trading for a ****ing prospect. He's pretty well known commodity at this point. The Blake Snell trade isn't even remotely close to the same and the reason you can't find a comp that's close is because teams don't ever part with guys like Ragans. |
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Position players with control are still kind of expensive to acquire, but half seasons of relief pitchers cost you a lotto ticket. Ragans was a lotto ticket who just happened to hit for KC. Normally, you're getting guys like C.J. Alexander back in return. They could improve this team a lot by trading for a few RP rentals.
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You don't do that at 49-43 in the era of tournament baseball where the Texas Rangers and the Arizona Diamondbacks played in the 2023 World Series. |
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#1392 |
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This conversation is beginning to sound like the infamous 2014 trade deadline thread titled
“Tigers Get Price. Royals Get Jack Shit”, by a complete clueless shithead named halfcan. Damn, that was a hilarious thread. |
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#1393 |
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He would bring back the best return of anything the Royals could trade beyond Bobby Witt, but it wouldn't be a crazy type of haul like what the White Sox got for Sale or anything. I don't think it would be as much as the Rays got for Snell, either.
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Awesome, phognutz in the royals thread.
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messed up meant to post this instead:
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