Investing megathread extravaganza

[DaFace]

A place to talk about investing stuff.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Hey Rainman, do you still have carnival stock? I remember you had some positions thinking it would bounce back after the pandemic.

Well it appears they have bounced back in terms of earnings, bookings, etc. The earnings are BETTER than their pre-pandemic numbers, but the stock price is still comparatively shit.

What's your thoughts on it?

it's been a while since I looked but carnivals biggest issue used to be debt

like their debt was potentially more than the value of their ships or higher than a certain % of that value.


since Interest rates have gone up , I'd imagine this issue would be looming pretty large but I don't know for certain if that's the main reason the price is low

one other correction, their earnings is no where near pre-pandemic yet. They've been negative earnings since 2020.

I think you mean revenue... but the problem is their debt payments eat up that revenue hence no earnings , or negative earnings actually.

[ghak99]

Hard to tell what it's a sign of, but it's often a sign of something.

[UteChief]

Originally Posted by ghak99

Hard to tell what it's a sign of, but it's often a sign of something.

Rich Dad writer is saying go gold and silver.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by UteChief

Rich Dad writer is saying go gold and silver.

The one that went broke after he wrote the book?

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by UteChief

Rich Dad writer is saying go gold and silver.

Who is that?

I haven't been seeing all the used car salesman with their doom and gloom buy gold and silver commercials lately. Google's AI will probably flood me with them now that I've typed this out.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Something earning 1% interest is better than putting it underneath your mattress.

might as well do a bond or cd at that point

[ReynardMuldrake]

Originally Posted by UteChief

Rich Dad writer is saying go gold and silver.

I wouldn't take advice from a guy that brags about being $1B in debt, but that's just me.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Ming the Merciless

might as well do a bond or cd at that point

I'm still gobbling up 5+ % long-term CDs like they're Tootsie Rolls.

[UteChief]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

The one that went broke after he wrote the book?

I have no idea, I just read about a paragraph and moved on.

[UteChief]

Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake

I wouldn't take advice from a guy that brags about being $1B in debt, but that's just me.

I don’t, I only kind of know who he is. My comment was more of a joke. I don’t think one guy can shift a market.

[UteChief]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I'm still gobbling up 5+ % long-term CDs like they're Tootsie Rolls.

What duration are you getting?

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by UteChief

What duration are you getting?

I'm shooting for 5 years. I can still find those pretty consistently through Fidelity. The 10 year ones are down to 4.5 or 4.75, which actually is still good if you're retiring and think inflation is headed to 2.9 again. But10 year terms are hard to find.

I've got some shorter term ones as well that are a little higher, but I'd rather get 5 or 10 year. Lesson learned: don't buy JP Morgan CDs. They'll offer high rates and then will call them on you.

These rates probably aren't good for anyone under 55, but they're great for the 60+ crowd.

[RunKC]

6 months ago I put most of my assets in S&P funds and I think that’s gonna be the long term plan. Listen to Warren Buffett. S&P will always go up and if it doesn’t then everybody is ****ed.

I have FZROX which has no expense ratio. It’s free. It’s performed great.

[ThaVirus]

I bought into some travel stocks back in 2021 hoping for a nice rebound. To date, they’ve been hit or miss. As others have noted, Royal Caribbean has crushed it but Carnival is lagging. Same deal with airlines- I’ve got a couple that are up and a couple that are still down three years later. Not sure what to make of it all.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by RunKC

6 months ago I put most of my assets in S&P funds and I think that’s gonna be the long term plan. Listen to Warren Buffett. S&P will always go up and if it doesn’t then everybody is ****ed.

I have FZROX which has no expense ratio. It’s free. It’s performed great.

minor correction:


FZROX is not an S&P 500 fund, its a total market fund (it has small and mid caps) so its not quite the same as investing in the S&P500


here's a 10 year chart of FZROX vs the S&P 500 https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/FZRO...ic=priceReturn


if youre trying to specifically invest in the S&P 500 and mimic the perforfance of the S&P 500 then things like SPY or VOO etc are what youre going to want to look at.