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Old 06-30-2017, 08:30 AM   #13786
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Just because Fisher and LDT make a lot of money doesn't mean they're actually any good.
LDT was one of the best pass blocking G's in the league last year. Eric Fisher is an average overall LT.

Bolles has proven nothing and Max Garcia isn't good. Garcia got embarrassed by our 6th rd pick and a guy we signed off the street.

Based on Elway's horrific OL evaluations, I wouldn't expect Bolles to be average year 1.
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Old 06-30-2017, 08:52 AM   #13787
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Don't sleep on SD. Injuries have killed them for two years. They have a good roster and Rivers isn't too old yet.
If there's one thing I know about this coming season, it's that Denver will not lose to San Diego.
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Old 06-30-2017, 08:59 AM   #13788
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LDT had a grade of 78.4 and Garcia had a grade of 74.0.

Is LDT better? Maybe, but he's not $42,000,000 better. Give me cheap ass Garcia all day every day.
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LDT a grade of 78.4 and Garcia had a grade of 74.0. Is LDT better? Maybe, but he's not $42,000,000 better. Give me cheap ass Garcia all day every day.
Better to spend on a young ascending offensive lineman than overpay for guys like Stephenson and Watson.

LDT's jump from 2015 to 2016 was pretty significant, and there's no reason to think he won't continue to get better. If he reaches his ceiling the deal will be a bargain.
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If there's one thing I know about this coming season, it's that Denver will not lose to San Diego.
You mean like last season when SD was a walking MASH unit?
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Old 06-30-2017, 09:19 AM   #13791
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Better to spend on a young ascending offensive lineman than overpay for guys like Stephenson and Watson.
Menelik Watson is the 31st highest paid tackle in the NFL.

Donald Stephenson is the 37th highest paid tackle in the NFL.

I understand that any amount of money is too much money for Stephenson, but being the 37th highest paid player at your position isn't overpaying.

LDT is the 7th highest paid G in the NFL, Garcia is the 73rd.
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Menelik Watson is the 31st highest paid tackle in the NFL.

Donald Stephenson is the 37th highest paid tackle in the NFL.

I understand that any amount of money is too much money for Stephenson, but being the 37th highest paid player at your position isn't overpaying.

LDT is the 7th highest paid G in the NFL, Garcia is the 73rd.
That's still near the top of RT money, so you can put it however you want, they're still shit contracts for shit players.
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LDT had a grade of 78.4 and Garcia had a grade of 74.0.

Is LDT better? Maybe, but he's not $42,000,000 better. Give me cheap ass Garcia all day every day.
LDT was the 5th best G in pass pro last season per PFF.

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LDT was the 5th best G in pass pro last season per PFF.

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He must've had a few bad games in weeks 1-5 because he had the 14th highest pass blocking grade according to PFF.

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Old 06-30-2017, 06:59 PM   #13795
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You mean like last season when SD was a walking MASH unit?
No, he means that they won't lose to San Diego, because there is no San Diego team.anymore. He can make no such guarantee about the LA Chargers.
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Knowmo, that isn't good.
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25th most talented roster in the NFL?

Knowmo, that isn't good.
Meh, that ranking doesn't really work with Denver.

PFF is listing Siemian, Stephenson, Latimer, Peko, Crick, and Virgil Green as starters, and Siemian is the only person on that list who even has a chance at playing >50% of the snaps this year.

Lynch, Henderson, McKenzie, Gotsis, Bolles, Butt, DeMarcus Walker, Charles, and Justin Simmons will contribute significantly more to the 2017 Broncos than the players PFF has named.
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Meh, that ranking doesn't really work with Denver.

PFF is listing Siemian, Stephenson, Latimer, Peko, Crick, and Virgil Green as starters, and Siemian is the only person on that list who even has a chance at playing >50% of the snaps this year.

Lynch, Henderson, McKenzie, Gotsis, Bolles, Butt, DeMarcus Walker, Charles, and Justin Simmons will contribute significantly more to the 2017 Broncos than the players PFF has named.
Dumbass ! Elway will be fired in the next two years. Unfortunately.
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