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Discussion: All things Broncos.

KranzDictum · 06-27-2017, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Should be #1.

Yep, considering what he did to the cheater rated #1 in the AFC Championship game Von should be #1 walking away.

Tore up Tommy that day and picked him off too boot.

**New World Order** · 06-27-2017, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KranzDictum

Yep, considering what he did to the cheater rated #1 in the AFC Championship game Von should be #1 walking away.

Tore up Tommy that day and picked him off too boot.

But you guys were Cheater Rated #2.

#1 of that season and every other Manning season for sure.

**Rain Man** · 06-27-2017, 08:00 PM

I hope his high ranking isn't too upsetting to the family members of the five people who were murdered at Fero's Bar & Grill.

Tombstone RJ · 06-27-2017, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order

But you guys were Cheater Rated #2.

#1 of that season and every other Manning season for sure.

Says the guy who didn't even want Mahomes before the draft, but now loves him.

**New World Order** · 06-27-2017, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Says the guy who didn't even want Mahomes before the draft, but now loves him.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...s#post12704218

Quesadilla Joe · 06-27-2017, 08:42 PM

@jcharles25 told @DenverChannel he's making cuts and feels like knee is "ready to do eveything. I still have a lot special stuff to do" pic.twitter.com/FA7cQsqA45
— Troy Renck (@TroyRenck) June 28, 2017

TomBarndtsTwin · 06-27-2017, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

@jcharles25 told @DenverChannel he's making cuts and feels like knee is "ready to do eveything. I still have a lot special stuff to do" pic.twitter.com/FA7cQsqA45
— Troy Renck (@TroyRenck) June 28, 2017

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Quesadilla Joe · 06-28-2017, 07:35 AM

Not many have ever done it better.

And he keeps doing it.

Happy birthday, @johnelway! pic.twitter.com/l88sj1mRwn
— Denver Broncos (@Broncos) June 28, 2017

**jjchieffan** · 06-28-2017, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Not many have ever done it better.

And he keeps doing it.

Happy birthday, @johnelway! pic.twitter.com/l88sj1mRwn
— Denver Broncos (@Broncos) June 28, 2017

Few have done it better. I assume by it, they mean cheat. Because is certainly the king of cheating.

Quesadilla Joe · 06-28-2017, 09:13 AM

Doug Farrar's top 10 CB's...

Spoiler!

1. Chris Harris Jr., Denver Broncos

In today's NFL, there's no cornerback more important—and rarer—than one who can shut down opposing receivers from anywhere on the field—whether outside or in the slot. And over the last five years, Harris has been the only cornerback to do it at a Pro Bowl level in both spots. That's why he's No. 1 on this list—wherever you put him on the field, he's going to make life miserable for whoever he's covering.

Undrafted out of Kansas in 2011, Harris worked his way up the depth chart in his early years, becoming the best slot cornerback in the business by 2013. That was the start of a three-year span in which opposing quarterbacks who targeted Harris in the slot came away with no touchdowns and six interceptions.

When the Broncos gave Harris a five-year, $42.5 million contract extension in December 2014, it was thought he'd move outside more often, which he has. Now, he's paired with Talib, and he and Talib are the most stingy and formidable cornerback duo in the league. At the end of last season, Harris and Talib combined had allowed just 681 yards and two touchdowns on 141 targets, per Pro Football Focus. That would be an amazing season for one cornerback, let alone two.

What makes Harris so effectively versatile? First, start with his mental game. He can read quarterbacks as he's trailing receivers, and he has an innate sense of what's about to happen. When you watch Harris on tape, it seems he's always in the right place. Harris' short-area route awareness—so crucial to playing the slot at a high level—is perhaps unparalleled. He has the requisite skills for the outside corner position as well—size (5'10", 199 lbs), downfield speed and the body control to jump routes and deflect passes, which adds to his peerless versatility.

Inside or outside, Harris is the best cornerback in the league, and he has been as long as he's been given the chance.

5. Aqib Talib, Denver Broncos

Talib missed three games with a lower back injury last season and had to deal with the aftereffects of accidentally shooting himself in the leg last June, but when he was healthy, he was the same cornerback he's been throughout his time in Denver. Talib was the only No. 1 cornerback not to allow a touchdown last season, and only Minnesota's Rhodes allowed a lower opponents' passer rating than Talib's 46.7. He surrendered just 36 catches on 73 targets for 372 yards and made three picks.

More than most cornerbacks on this list, Talib doesn't need safety help—he's savvy and athletic enough to follow the league's most talented receivers around the field no matter what routes they're running. He's aggressive, but he's developed a discipline that allows him to use that to his advantage. He's best in man coverage, where he can deploy his 6'1", 205-pound frame to track routes and gum up receivers at the line of scrimmage, but he's experienced enough to implement zone concepts as well.

Talib has always been a gambler in coverage—he has so much faith in his ability, and he seems to enjoy baiting quarterbacks into making throws they think are to open receivers, but then Talib will swoop in for a deflection or interception. Talib wasn't always disciplined on or off the field early in his career in Tampa Bay, but like a lot of players, he underwent a transformation with the Patriots, for whom he played in 2012 and 2013, and he's carried that to Denver, where he was a linchpin in Wade Phillips' defenses.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...wn-cornerbacks

**Rain Man** · 06-28-2017, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

Few have done it better. I assume by it, they mean cheat. Because is certainly the king of cheating.

Broncos trivia fact: Among quarterbacks with more than 500 attempts, John Elway has the 86th highest passer rating. Others with similar rankings include Damon Huard (77th), Steve Beuerlein (84th), Ryan Fitzpatrick (88th), and Kelly Holcomb (93rd).

TomBarndtsTwin · 06-28-2017, 09:23 AM

Before everyone rushes in with 'Doug Farrar sucks', he rated Marcus Peters #2, ahead of Talib and just behind Harris.

**jjchieffan** · 06-28-2017, 09:40 AM

KnowShit, you have been around here long enough to know that it's a bad idea to post anything from those morons over at Bleacherreport.com Prepare your anus. Because you are about to get reamed.

Quesadilla Joe · 06-28-2017, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

KnowShit, you have been around here long enough to know that it's a bad idea to post anything from those morons over at Bleacherreport.com Prepare your anus. Because you are about to get reamed.

Bleacher Report has changed a bit over the past few years. It used to be a place where fans would write BS articles, but they have some reputable people writing for them now. Doug Farrar, for example, wrote for Football Outsiders and Sports Illustrated before going to Bleacher Report.

I don't read a whole lot from Bleacher Report, but I'll check out stuff that Matt Miller, Farrar, and Ted Sundquist write from time to time.

RunKC · 06-28-2017, 10:03 AM

Chris Harris Jr. is not better than Aqib Talib.

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Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $3428675	@jcharles25 told @DenverChannel he's making cuts and feels like knee is "ready to do eveything. I still have a lot special stuff to do" pic.twitter.com/FA7cQsqA45 — Troy Renck (@TroyRenck) June 28, 2017
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06-28-2017, 07:35 AM	#13718
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06-28-2017, 09:13 AM	#13720
Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $3428675	Doug Farrar's top 10 CB's... Spoiler! 1. Chris Harris Jr., Denver Broncos In today's NFL, there's no cornerback more important—and rarer—than one who can shut down opposing receivers from anywhere on the field—whether outside or in the slot. And over the last five years, Harris has been the only cornerback to do it at a Pro Bowl level in both spots. That's why he's No. 1 on this list—wherever you put him on the field, he's going to make life miserable for whoever he's covering. Undrafted out of Kansas in 2011, Harris worked his way up the depth chart in his early years, becoming the best slot cornerback in the business by 2013. That was the start of a three-year span in which opposing quarterbacks who targeted Harris in the slot came away with no touchdowns and six interceptions. When the Broncos gave Harris a five-year, $42.5 million contract extension in December 2014, it was thought he'd move outside more often, which he has. Now, he's paired with Talib, and he and Talib are the most stingy and formidable cornerback duo in the league. At the end of last season, Harris and Talib combined had allowed just 681 yards and two touchdowns on 141 targets, per Pro Football Focus. That would be an amazing season for one cornerback, let alone two. What makes Harris so effectively versatile? First, start with his mental game. He can read quarterbacks as he's trailing receivers, and he has an innate sense of what's about to happen. When you watch Harris on tape, it seems he's always in the right place. Harris' short-area route awareness—so crucial to playing the slot at a high level—is perhaps unparalleled. He has the requisite skills for the outside corner position as well—size (5'10", 199 lbs), downfield speed and the body control to jump routes and deflect passes, which adds to his peerless versatility. Inside or outside, Harris is the best cornerback in the league, and he has been as long as he's been given the chance. 5. Aqib Talib, Denver Broncos Talib missed three games with a lower back injury last season and had to deal with the aftereffects of accidentally shooting himself in the leg last June, but when he was healthy, he was the same cornerback he's been throughout his time in Denver. Talib was the only No. 1 cornerback not to allow a touchdown last season, and only Minnesota's Rhodes allowed a lower opponents' passer rating than Talib's 46.7. He surrendered just 36 catches on 73 targets for 372 yards and made three picks. More than most cornerbacks on this list, Talib doesn't need safety help—he's savvy and athletic enough to follow the league's most talented receivers around the field no matter what routes they're running. He's aggressive, but he's developed a discipline that allows him to use that to his advantage. He's best in man coverage, where he can deploy his 6'1", 205-pound frame to track routes and gum up receivers at the line of scrimmage, but he's experienced enough to implement zone concepts as well. Talib has always been a gambler in coverage—he has so much faith in his ability, and he seems to enjoy baiting quarterbacks into making throws they think are to open receivers, but then Talib will swoop in for a deflection or interception. Talib wasn't always disciplined on or off the field early in his career in Tampa Bay, but like a lot of players, he underwent a transformation with the Patriots, for whom he played in 2012 and 2013, and he's carried that to Denver, where he was a linchpin in Wade Phillips' defenses. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...wn-cornerbacks
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06-28-2017, 09:23 AM	#13722
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06-28-2017, 10:03 AM	#13725
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