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Old 10-12-2022, 09:51 AM   #1351
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I'm just saying, he isn't turned and appears to go thru the wr when the ball arrives.
We get it, you're an idiot.
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Old 10-12-2022, 09:51 AM   #1352
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He looked primed for a big night in the 1st couple of drives of the Raiders game. Hell the whole line looked like it was.

And then the weird shit started happening, like Frank Clark suddenly leaving to have diarrhea.
Yeah....Clark leaving and Wharton getting hurt kind of ****ed everything up.
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Guessing it had something to do with adjusting blocking assignments to create blitz lanes.

I mean it's not impossible that Spags had them 2-gapping in the 2nd half? Herring isn't explosive but he's fairly strong. You could use Jones as a 3-tech and still get pressure with him while using Herring/Karlaftis as a sort of Nascar style intermittent 2-gap setup that could keep the OL guessing and create better blitz lanes...

Just thinking out loud.
It's as good of an explanation as any. If that's the case, though it hurt more than it helped IMO.
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Old 10-12-2022, 09:51 AM   #1354
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How the **** was he supposed to turn his head? That shit was way underthrown.
Yup if a WR jumps over or into a DB then DPI should be nullified right there On the spot.

That’s rewarding a shitty off target throw by the QB.
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Old 10-12-2022, 09:51 AM   #1355
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Yeah, Crosby just wore down, you could see it happen.

I don't think Karlaftis has been bad, he's been fine. But like you said, this was always what he was probably gonna be and why I think you need someone opposite him that isn't Frank Clark
You need a speed rusher on the other side of Karlaftis.
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Yeah, Crosby just wore down, you could see it happen.

I don't think Karlaftis has been bad, he's been fine. But like you said, this was always what he was probably gonna be and why I think you need someone opposite him that isn't Frank Clark
You need a speed rusher on the other side of Karlaftis.
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I'm just saying, he isn't turned and appears to go thru the wr when the ball arrives.
When the ball arrives? At that point he's allowed to blow him the **** up so what is your point?
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We get it, you're an idiot.
When the ball arrives he doesn't have his head turned and the WR makes contact.

I agree, it's bullshit, but in today's NFL that's PI. Like it or not.
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Even if they reviewed, it's still gonna be called with rules being what they are. It's a bad rule.

They'd say the CB impeded the WR to the ball I'm sure.
And that shit needs to change. If you can go back and review those...and see that the ball was so underthrown that the WR had no clear shot at it....it should be overturned.
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You need a speed rusher on the other side of Karlaftis.
Yep.

For all of the talk about pressures and win rates (Karlaftis is plus in both categories), Dunlap is currently one of the worst in the league.
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And that shit needs to change. If you can go back and review those...and see that the ball was so underthrown that the WR had no clear shot at it....it should be overturned.
I don't know how you could determine the WR had no shot at it though?
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And that shit needs to change. If you can go back and review those...and see that the ball was so underthrown that the WR had no clear shot at it....it should be overturned.
Yeah, the rule has to change. As it stands, the rule states that a WR has the right to fight back to an under thrown ball and if he has to go through a defender to do it, it's DPI. They even talked about it on the telecast.
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I don't know how you could determine the WR had no shot at it though?
That's going to vary from play to play.

Question for you though. Why is it DPI if the DB doesn't get his head turned? In what universe is that some catch all? As long as he doesn't shove the WR away from the ball or impeded him from coming back....what does it matter?

Carr underthrew the ball and that catch would have been hard as **** for Adams if Watson wasn't there. It's a stupid ****ing call.
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You need a speed rusher on the other side of Karlaftis.
I think that’s gonna be Veach’s focus next Spring. Especially with Wharton tearing his ACL.

Assuming Clark is gone that would leave Karlaftis, Danna (in a contract year) and Chris Jones (contract year but will most likely get an extension of some sort) as our rushers on the roster.

Would really like to get a pass rusher in FA, use a pick in the 1st rd and another in the 3rd or 4th to bolster that position.
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It's as good of an explanation as any. If that's the case, though it hurt more than it helped IMO.
Maybe - but the blitzes were pretty effective. The Harris sack being the most obvious but I can think of at least 2 other plays where pressure from a blitzing player blew up the play.

And given how ineffective our rush was only sending 4, you may just be talking about picking from the best of bad options. I can see the value in flipping to an odd front, bringing pressure from varied blitzers and trying to wrong-foot them since it's not something they've seen on tape.

Confusing Carr would've been a good way to force a mistake. But he played a smart game.
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Yeah, the rule has to change. As it stands, the rule states that a WR has the right to fight back to an under thrown ball and if he has to go through a defender to do it, it's DPI. They even talked about it on the telecast.
Yeah, there needs to be an exception for when the defender has established his space. Watson didn't do anything to further impede Adams - he simply held the space he'd clearly established and Adams treated him like he thought he was a camera guy...
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