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08-17-2023, 09:12 PM | #13561 |
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08-19-2023, 11:41 AM | #13562 |
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LewDog = The Debbie Downer of Dividends
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08-19-2023, 12:48 PM | #13563 | |
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Here's what I can honestly figure out. I think something like TSLY works in sideways and maybe slightly down markets, to keep you ahead of the regular TSLA stock as far as total return. Remember, total return is all that matters. I don't give a shit if that's from the stock price or dividends. However, you will assume much more risk in downside loss in a true bear market with TSLY. Also during a rapid recovery and very bullish pattern, you won't gather the same upside gains that the straight TSLA stock would see and you'll lag returns then. Just what I can gather from the price action on both. |
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08-19-2023, 01:02 PM | #13564 | |
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TSLA dropped from 279 to 215 the last 30 days (-22.93%) TSLY dropped from 16.74 to 13.37 last 30 days (-20.13%) That amount of drop in 30 days I would think constitute a full Bear market (For TSLA/TSLY) so we will see what the dividend announcement is for September. edit : Also the fund manager states on the upside if the underlying stock will increase 5% or less during the 30 day period , they can pretty much capture ALL the upside, but when it grows at a faster pace it will lag. |
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08-19-2023, 10:07 PM | #13565 | |
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But if valuation theory holds, Tesla is still overpriced. Boring shit like J&J is still underpriced. Fact is sentiment doesn’t always match financial performance. You’re arguing theory. Hog is arguing historical pricing (sentiment) |
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08-22-2023, 07:12 AM | #13566 |
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I'm not comparing anything like that. I'm comparing owning a stock of an actual company against a ticker that spins off huge dividends using a covered call strategy. People continue to underestimate the risk on something like TSLY but I do think it can benefit you in sideways markets.
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08-29-2023, 07:14 AM | #13567 |
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You can add my employer to the growing list of corporations cutting staff
Announced a 10% bloodbath yesterday morning. Mostly manager/director level and unfortunately a lot of our analytics teams were let go as budgets shrink Outside of my boss, a couple peers and a number of others that I've crossed paths with over the years, my role wasn't impacted, but man, survivors guilt is real Stay safe and well positioned out there |
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08-29-2023, 07:26 AM | #13568 | |
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08-29-2023, 10:39 AM | #13569 |
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Hate to hear that.
Tyson is quietly murdering the shit out of things right now. Insiders claim the problem started during the shutdown and they rode the rail all this time trying to get ahead of the issues. Demand, especially for chicken, is really high and it doesn't even matter. New guy has been implemented and is quickly sending them down the road of eliminating the inflated wages and replacing with automation. More locations will be announce as being on the chopping block soon. I've been surprised at how well the rate hikes have been accepted. That figure is quickly becoming a serious line item on the budget. |
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09-02-2023, 06:27 PM | #13570 | |
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I use margin to borrow against it.
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09-21-2023, 08:10 AM | #13571 |
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Bloodbath!
We might test the 200 day MA if we keep this up. |
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09-21-2023, 09:20 AM | #13572 |
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09-21-2023, 10:55 AM | #13573 |
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Have you followed this guy long? At least lately, he seems to post a ton of content all basically touting the same thing.
What's everyone's predictions on a major bull run in crypto happening 12-18 months from now with as large of growth as he's suggesting? |
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09-21-2023, 10:59 AM | #13574 | |
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We had such a great first half of the year. I was hoping we could keep it going. This quarter has not been ideal. But I also think that we can see the code. The Fed raises rates and the market goes down. The Fed doesn't lower rates and the market goes down. At some point the Fed will lower rates and I have a prediction about what will happen. This seems like a good buying opportunity for those with some risk tolerance.
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09-21-2023, 11:29 AM | #13575 |
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How does this work? Is it basically like a normal loan just backed by your AAPL position? Are you just paying the interest each month while investing in something else with the assumption that investment is growing at a larger percentage that the interest rate?
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