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You marijuana investors may find this news interesting:
http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/30/inve...bis/index.html The company that makes Corona beer is buying a Canadian marijuana seller with plans to develop a marijuana drink. I've got some stock in Constellation, and it's done very well for me, by the way. It even pays a dividend.
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Nice post, Rainmain. Thanks.
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I need help here. Want to grow my my money. I'm getting a late start at age 41 but better late than never. I don't know much at all about investing. Can somebody offer some advice for a good starting strategy?
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Everyone will tell you to go with a mutual fund or index fund. I'm the voice in the wind who disagrees and thinks you get better returns from stocks, and particularly dividend-paying stocks.
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Out of curiosity, for those of you who invest on your own (don't use a broker), what platform do you use...E*Trade? Ally?
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Go with mutual funds.
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Specifically index funds. Low fees are your friend, especially over a long investment horizon.
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Depends on the amount of effort he is willing/able to invest. For most folks, I think mutual funds are the better approach.
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First question is do you participate in any employee sponsored retirement plans such as a 401k?
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Care to share your individual returns on your investments as a whole? Are your employee sponsored retirement plans behind your gains you've made in the market yourself?
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Here's an example in one of my accounts. I decided in that account long ago that I would do what I'm told and go with mutual funds. I did it all the way you were supposed to - I picked a small set of diverse funds, all highly rated, and ... bleah. I was constantly trailing the market. So about three years ago I started chucking the mutual funds out the door and buying my own stocks. Here are my annual returns versus the S&P 500. 5-year return: Underperformed by 3.23% per year (mutual funds suck) 3-year return: Overperformed by 0.10%. As soon as I ditched the mutual funds I quickly caught up. 1-year return: Underperformed by 0.19%. Running about equal now but the S&P was up 23 percent so the difference is noise. That account's not killing it, but look at the five-year return. My returns with mutual funds were pathetic, and as soon as I got out I started making up ground. Now I'm tracking the S&P's returns. A second account is newer, so I've only got three years of data. I would expect this one to underperform a bit because I put in a large cash infusion to start it, and have bought very slowly. Three years later I'm still at over 20 percent cash. But here's where I'm at versus the S&P just to be consistent. 3-year return: Overperformed by 0.62% per year. 1-year return: Underperforming by 1.79%. Not having a great year this year, but that's cooked into the three year return above. I'm winning that battle despite having a cash position that's averaged over 20%. The third account will only give me calendar year comparisons for last year and this YTD. 2016: Overperformed by 3.82% (I killed the S&P) 2017: Underperforming by 1.96%. (I lost 1.4 percent against the S&P this month for some reason, which is most of that.) I'm winning again. Granted, this is just against the S&P. Nasdaq is smokin' this year, and I'm underrepresented in Nasdaq. In the long run, I've got enough diversification that I'd rather buy stocks once for a $5 purchase fee, and then not pay fees every year so some mutual fund manager can go gambling (or charge me to rebalance an index fund). There's some rebalancing to be done occasionally and I like to play games by buying and selling, but the bottom line is that I used to hold mutual funds and I consistently underperformed the market by a fair margin. Now I hold stocks and I don't.
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There are a couple of funds I like that outperform index funds regularly.
Fidelity OTC Portfolio Fidelity Blue Chip Growth I have those along with an SP500 fund, Midcap fund and some Eurp and Pac Basin funds.. but in general...index funds and time in the market along with the correct asset allocation is how you make your money over the long haul |
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I wholeheartedly agree that actively-managed mutual funds are a ripoff, but index funds are practically free. |
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Thanks for doing that. Good info and interesting. It will be very interesting to see how your returns hold up in a down market and if your individual stock preference tends to lose more than something like a mutual fund or index. Care to discuss good dividend paying stocks that you own? I feel myself that I could use some dividend paying individual stocks, either for passive income in the future or just continued dividend reinvestment.
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