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They can find the big 0/1 tech run stuffers off the street. Makes sense they look for a guy that can get some rush up there.
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The Chiefs went from 55 and 57 sacks to only 39 last year. The pass rush from week 1 through 11 only had 21 sacks averaging 1.9 sacks/game which was one of the bottom teams in the league. You could really tell Spags was relying too much on blitzing most of last year. There’s only so many blitzes you can put on tape before teams can adjust, so it was a big need to address the pass rush.

Not surprisingly, the Chiefs had 18 sacks in their last 5 games which drastically improved that number to 3.6 sacks/game.

The pass rush immediately got better when Omenihu came back. Danna also had a pec injury which hampered him until about December and that made even more of a difference.

They’ve got their 4 best rushers in Chris, Karlaftis, Omenihu and Danna.
They’ve got Felix in a critical year right behind him. Now they have ONM and Gillotte behind them. I’d argue ONM was perfectly fine bc they don’t need him to play a ton of snaps. He’s gonna be a money down rusher.

Stack good pass rushers. You never know when a few guys will miss time. As much as I hate them, you have to give the Broncos credit for doing this with Bonitto, Cooper, Allen, JFM and Roach/Ellis and even Tillman. Not to mention those assholes got one of my guys Sai’vion Jones.

Keep your guys fresh and rotate. We need to be drafting a pass rusher in the top 100 every single year.
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I'd still like to have a pure speed DE. But that's just not gonna happen.
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I'd still like to have a pure speed DE. But that's just not gonna happen.
Gillotte is as close to that as you're gonna get, it would seem.

He has speed, he has some bend. But he uses that speed more to get into guys bodies and/or set them up for a genuine move.

He's not looking to go up the arc on anyone. If they just don't react, he might. But he uses his speed to set up his power or to set up a hand-fight rather than as a means to an end itself.

With someone like Uche, speed was the first club in his bag - his speed was his Driver. With Gillotte it's something of a 7 iron.

I'll take what I can get there. Honestly, I kinda feel like that was the plan for FAU but the get-off has just never come along like it should. If Gillotte plays out like we hope, it'll be because he became the guy we thought FAU would.
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Gillotte is as close to that as you're gonna get, it would seem.

He has speed, he has some bend. But he uses that speed more to get into guys bodies and/or set them up for a genuine move.

He's not looking to go up the arc on anyone. If they just don't react, he might. But he uses his speed to set up his power or to set up a hand-fight rather than as a means to an end itself.

With someone like Uche, speed was the first club in his bag - his speed was his Driver. With Gillotte it's something of a 7 iron.

I'll take what I can get there. Honestly, I kinda feel like that was the plan for FAU but the get-off has just never come along like it should. If Gillotte plays out like we hope, it'll be because he became the guy we thought FAU would.
Yeah if you want the speed guys Spags isn’t for you bc those guys are smaller and Spags just doesn’t like those guys. Gillotte is extremely athletic for a 264 lb player though.

Among DE’s at the combine he was 5th in the 40, 4th best 10 split, 3rd best 20 shuttle and tied for the best 3 cone.

Gillotte legitimately has the athleticism of a smaller edge rusher O.City wants. He was right there with the top guys in all of the agility tests but the 40, which is a bit redundant for a DE bc they will rarely run 40 yards downfield, if at all.

That’s why I think his ceiling is higher than George’s. It showed on tape too. Yeesh.

And yeah. Felix better be ready day 1 of camp bc this kid is coming for his job. Not sure he’s gonna be able to fend this kid off. He’s exactly what they wanted Felix to become.
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I'd still like to have a pure speed DE. But that's just not gonna happen.
Not unless we suck so bad to get into the top of the draft, I'd rather not suck. I've seen enough of that crap from my team to last a lifetime.
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Yeah if you want the speed guys Spags isn’t for you bc those guys are smaller and Spags just doesn’t like those guys. Gillotte is extremely athletic for a 264 lb player though.

Among DE’s at the combine he was 5th in the 40, 4th best 10 split, 3rd best 20 shuttle and tied for the best 3 cone.

Gillotte legitimately has the athleticism of a smaller edge rusher O.City wants. He was right there with the top guys in all of the agility tests but the 40, which is a bit redundant for a DE bc they will rarely run 40 yards downfield, if at all.

That’s why I think his ceiling is higher than George’s. It showed on tape too. Yeesh.

And yeah. Felix better be ready day 1 of camp bc this kid is coming for his job. Not sure he’s gonna be able to fend this kid off. He’s exactly what they wanted Felix to become.
I would just caution against expecting too much, too soon.

Spags is one to keep his thumb on the scale. Especially in his front 7. I just think the odds of Gillotte carving through both Danna AND FAU are pretty long.
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I would just caution against expecting too much, too soon.

Spags is one to keep his thumb on the scale. Especially in his front 7. I just think the odds of Gillotte carving through both Danna AND FAU are pretty long.
Yeah, it's weird that he does that with the front, but not the back. And the back is where all the high level performance happened. I dunno.
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This is the most important pick in the draft, in the short-term at least, because we need him to contribute immediately. Not much depth at DT beyond Jones. The other guys drafted can be brought along slower.
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I understand the pick and the high value of pass-rush but this pick was my least favorite.

I like the idea of tool boxing guys to create a complete DT but a DT that plays 17 snaps in college in just a pass-rush role seems like a bit of a reach in the 2nd. Reminds me of last year where we took Kingsley because we loved the idea of hitting value on LT but we were wish casting a bit.

Hopefully his numbers aren't fluff and this pass-rush ability translates to the next level.
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Absolutely hilarious that in the modern NFL, many of you would've been good with a one-dimensional run stuffer, but not the one-dimensional pass rusher?

News flash: you aren't getting both at 63 either way.

Also, interior pass rush is a far more finite resource than a run stuffing 2 gap DT. This is just ass backwards thinking in the modern NFL, even after the RB renaissance last year.
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I thought all the Tennessee guys were difficult to gauge because they rotated their DL like hockey lines. Dude has a lot of potential and some really nice measurables, first step is there...but it's hard to judge if he was doing what he was because he was incredibly fresh against tired guys.
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I thought all the Tennessee guys were difficult to gauge because they rotated their DL like hockey lines. Dude has a lot of potential and some really nice measurables, first step is there...but it's hard to judge if he was doing what he was because he was incredibly fresh against tired guys.
Saw Matt Lane bring this up as well, but if your main concern is that he's a rotational player, that's not exactly going to change in the NFL.

He's still going to be much more fresh than the guys blocking him.
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Yeah, who knows. If his pass-rush win rate translates to the NFL no one will care he's one dimensional.


When I watch him it's not 100% obvious like Kancey coming out.
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Yeah, who knows. If his pass-rush win rate translates to the NFL no one will care he's one dimensional.


When I watch him it's not 100% obvious like Kancey coming out.
You mean to tell me Calijah Kancey, a top 20 pick, and one of the best interior pass rushers to come out in the last decade, is better?

You're really bad at this. No wonder you've stopped talking draft during the process on here after looking like a clown with your Worthy takes.
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