Chiefs Patrick Mahomes isn't "broken" you ****ing dorks - Page 9

carcosa · 11-01-2021, 10:14 PM

"broken" "abomination" "Rick Ankiel"

These are all words that people used to describe Patrick ****ing Mahomes tonight. I mean, are you listening to yourselves? Rick ****ING Ankiel?????

Look, I'm not going to pretend like he's been himself all year. He's not seeing the field as well as usual, he's struggling to trust his OL and occasionally scrambling out of clean pockets, he's missing some throws, some of those turnovers have actually been his fault and not just the receivers being unable to hold onto the ****in ball.

But all the wannabe psychologists and family therapists on this site are driving me up a ****ing wall. You don't know what the **** is going on in his head and you don't know what affect his family life has on his play.

What you DO know, based on a 3 season sample size, is that he's the greatest QB through ~50 games in NFL history. You know that he's won multiple comeback playoff games, two AFC titles, and a Super Bowl. You even know (or at least you ****ing should, unless you've been too busy moaning to actually read anything), that by most metrics he's actually been pretty good overall this season. His "turnover worthy" plays are actually DOWN from past years. He's #4 in the league in touchdowns. His TD% is identical to last season and higher that 2019. Before Tennessee, which is easily the biggest outlier of his career including the other "bad" games this season, he was leading one of the most efficient offenses of all time in terms of points per drive — yes, better than 2018. I know it doesn't feel that way because so many guys on this team (including, yes, Patrick himself on a few occasions) can't hold onto the ****ing ball. But that's the ****ing truth.

If he were moping during press conferences or lashing out on social media, I might give a little bit more credence to the narrative that he's moments away from a nervous breakdown. Not very much, but a little bit. But he's not. He's being honest (almost to a fault) about his role in the team's struggles and projecting confidence that he can turn it around. What more can he possibly do to convince some of you losers to hold onto a bit of that confidence yourselves? Does he need to go back in time and miraculously heal Schwartz and Fisher and win that Super Bowl? Should he just commit seppuku at midfield? What do you want??

Patrick Mahomes is not broken. He's slumping. Every QB slumps occasionally. Not every QB calls having the 4th best QBR (64.1) and 6th best EPA (46.3, just above the dreaded Aaron Rodgers) a ****ing slump. Personally, even after 8 underwhelming-to-miserable games and a 4-4 record, I'm gonna give the kid a little more leeway before calling for him to be committed to the god damn psych ward. I think he's earned at least that much.

MahomesMagic · 11-02-2021, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Hell, I'm talking about the basics.

Catching the ball. That's it. Catch the ****ing football.

We don't look dialed in most games. We look like a collection of players, not a team.

This results in sloppiness, bonehead mistakes, etc.

Cosmos · 11-02-2021, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Mahomes has to learn how to play in the pocket. Period. He is uncomfortable being a pocket QB. He wants to run around and play backyard football and teams are taking that away.

He has to learn to stay in the pocket, make quicker reads and don't try to force the ball downfield as a first choice on every play.

Seeing the same thing.

It’s different now, when he’s sitting in the pocket, where he’s flinching around, as opposed to bailing out and reading half the field, with extra seconds for a decision.

Sitting in the pocket, facing 2 high/ no blitz…trying to read coverages is giving him some trouble.

mr. tegu · 11-02-2021, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Mahomes has to learn how to play in the pocket. Period. He is uncomfortable being a pocket QB. He wants to run around and play backyard football and teams are taking that away.

He has to learn to stay in the pocket, make quicker reads and don't try to force the ball downfield as a first choice on every play.

None of this is remotely true. He has been one of the best QBs in the pocket for three years.

**Lzen** · 11-02-2021, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by carcosa

I have already denied it and proved it wrong, dummy

He's off, but his "off" is still good for the 4th best ****ing QBR in the league!!!! Jesus ****ing christ, words mean things, that's not "shit" any way you ****ing slice it!!!!!!!

That guy is a dumb ass. But he's a little bit right. I have seen several throws this year where I say he's just a little off this year. Throws like the deep pass to Reek last night. If he threw that just a bit further and more to the middle, it's a TD. We're used to seeing Patrick make those throws so this is a little surprising. I think it's the mistrust on his offensive line that has contributed mostly to these struggles.

FringeNC · 11-02-2021, 08:00 AM

One issue is I don't think he trusts Orlando Brown to protect his blindside.

This stuff about him not been able to play in the pocket is crap. Many of his highlight throws come from outside the pocket, but in the pocket he has been one of the most efficient passers in league history.

Iczer · 11-02-2021, 08:02 AM

Seems like coaches aren't helping Mahomes much with play calling. Plays are taking too long to develop.

burt · 11-02-2021, 08:05 AM

I just figure Patrick has a LOT of shit going on. So, now, he has the "yips". He needs to talk to Tin Cup, or **** Rene Russo. That should do it.

Molitoth · 11-02-2021, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

Throughout the current shit show. Tyreek has been the lone bright spot. Dude just delivers.

Tyreek has dropped his share of balls... a few tipped for INT's.

**notorious** · 11-02-2021, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by burt

I just figure Patrick has a LOT of shit going on. So, now, he has the "yips". He needs to talk to Tin Cup, or **** Rene Russo. That should do it.

Honestly, if the other guys stop ****ing up the flow of the drives with mental mistakes he will come back to full Mahomes.

Just when you think the offense is rolling "doink" off of hands or facemasks. Even Kelce has been horribly guilty of it.

**Lzen** · 11-02-2021, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

He has more INTs than Trevor Lawrence, that's not great.

I think people using this to make that argument are being dishonest. How many of those Ints were on the receivers not catching the ball?

Garcia Bronco · 11-02-2021, 08:12 AM

He is playing like shit because he's playing like shit. He's making dumb decisions. Throwing into bad coverages, trying dumbass no look passes, and he's been figured out. There's league has adjusted to him. Now he needs to adjust.

**DaFace** · 11-02-2021, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

I think people using this to make that argument are being dishonest. How many of those Ints were on the receivers not catching the ball?

Quite a few, sure, but it's not like that's been happening on throws where he drills the guy in the chest.

UkraineChiefsFan · 11-02-2021, 08:29 AM

I too long been concern luck would be depleted. Many years Patrick was almost intercepted a throw. So much luck all the time.

I fear he never learn how to throw in a pocket. Always run behind himself. Tired of the silly throws. Jump throw side throw

wachashi · 11-02-2021, 08:33 AM

In the words of Andy Reid, "I'm seeing things I haven't seen before."

Pat's going to get himself corrected. He's too good not to.

I noticed Pat's dropbacks seemed shorter and more controlled. The Giants sent Ojulari on a wide rush that completely missed because Mahomes dropped back 7 or 8 yards instead of 11. Little corrections like that can have a big impact.

O.city · 11-02-2021, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

None of this is remotely true. He has been one of the best QBs in the pocket for three years.

Well, he's not right now.

He's leaving clean pockets and bailing after his first read isn't there.

And it's derailing the offense.

11-01-2021, 10:14 PM
carcosa Thank you Join Date: May 2014 Casino cash: $-256305	Patrick Mahomes isn't "broken" you ing dorks "broken" "abomination" "Rick Ankiel" These are all words that people used to describe Patrick **ing Mahomes tonight. I mean, are you listening to yourselves? Rick ING Ankiel????? Look, I'm not going to pretend like he's been himself all year. He's not seeing the field as well as usual, he's struggling to trust his OL and occasionally scrambling out of clean pockets, he's missing some throws, some of those turnovers have actually been his fault and not just the receivers being unable to hold onto the in ball. But all the wannabe psychologists and family therapists on this site are driving me up a ing wall. You don't know what the is going on in his head and you don't know what affect his family life has on his play. What you DO know, based on a 3 season sample size, is that he's the greatest QB through ~50 games in NFL history. You know that he's won multiple comeback playoff games, two AFC titles, and a Super Bowl. You even know (or at least you ing should, unless you've been too busy moaning to actually read anything), that by most metrics he's actually been pretty good overall this season. His "turnover worthy" plays are actually DOWN from past years. He's #4 in the league in touchdowns. His TD% is identical to last season and higher that 2019. Before Tennessee, which is easily the biggest outlier of his career including the other "bad" games this season, he was leading one of the most efficient offenses of all time in terms of points per drive — yes, better than 2018. I know it doesn't feel that way because so many guys on this team (including, yes, Patrick himself on a few occasions) can't hold onto the ing ball. But that's the ing truth. If he were moping during press conferences or lashing out on social media, I might give a little bit more credence to the narrative that he's moments away from a nervous breakdown. Not very much, but a little bit. But he's not. He's being honest (almost to a fault) about his role in the team's struggles and projecting confidence that he can turn it around. What more can he possibly do to convince some of you losers to hold onto a bit of that confidence yourselves? Does he need to go back in time and miraculously heal Schwartz and Fisher and win that Super Bowl? Should he just commit seppuku at midfield? What do you want?? Patrick Mahomes is not broken. He's slumping. Every QB slumps occasionally. Not every QB calls having the 4th best QBR (64.1) and 6th best EPA (46.3, just above the dreaded Aaron Rodgers) a **ing slump. Personally, even after 8 underwhelming-to-miserable games and a 4-4 record, I'm gonna give the kid a little more leeway before calling for him to be committed to the god damn psych ward. I think he's earned at least that much.
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11-02-2021, 08:00 AM	#125
FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $-1173986	One issue is I don't think he trusts Orlando Brown to protect his blindside. This stuff about him not been able to play in the pocket is crap. Many of his highlight throws come from outside the pocket, but in the pocket he has been one of the most efficient passers in league history.
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11-02-2021, 08:02 AM	#126
Iczer Starter Join Date: Dec 2014 Casino cash: $7762356	Seems like coaches aren't helping Mahomes much with play calling. Plays are taking too long to develop.
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11-02-2021, 08:12 AM	#131
Garcia Bronco No Keys, No Problem Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Denver Casino cash: $2333136	He is playing like shit because he's playing like shit. He's making dumb decisions. Throwing into bad coverages, trying dumbass no look passes, and he's been figured out. There's league has adjusted to him. Now he needs to adjust.
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11-02-2021, 08:29 AM	#133
UkraineChiefsFan Banned Join Date: Oct 2021 Casino cash: $9990400	I too long been concern luck would be depleted. Many years Patrick was almost intercepted a throw. So much luck all the time. I fear he never learn how to throw in a pocket. Always run behind himself. Tired of the silly throws. Jump throw side throw
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11-02-2021, 08:33 AM	#134
wachashi Veteran Join Date: Jan 2019 Casino cash: $6600400	In the words of Andy Reid, "I'm seeing things I haven't seen before." Pat's going to get himself corrected. He's too good not to. I noticed Pat's dropbacks seemed shorter and more controlled. The Giants sent Ojulari on a wide rush that completely missed because Mahomes dropped back 7 or 8 yards instead of 11. Little corrections like that can have a big impact.
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