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Call Your Shot: Who’s the Chiefs first selection in the 2020 Draft

I’m going with Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU
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Old 04-16-2020, 10:29 AM   #121
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I think its JK Dobbins. Just getting 5 years out of running back on cheap will be huge for Mahomes.
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I just think they’re going to want an immediate impact. They’re all-in on a repeat.

Again, I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t see them going in that direction for that reason. It’s also the reason why I’m kinda buying all the smoke on a RB. I still don’t think they do that, but when trying to project wha this team is going to do in the 1st, I can’t help but think getting an immediate impact is priority #1.
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Old 04-16-2020, 10:32 AM   #123
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I think its JK Dobbins. Just getting 5 years out of running back on cheap will be huge for Mahomes.
Why wouldn't you take Swift in that spot then?
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Old 04-16-2020, 10:34 AM   #124
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I think its JK Dobbins. Just getting 5 years out of running back on cheap will be huge for Mahomes.
Not 5 years, 4 years, tops.
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Old 04-16-2020, 10:34 AM   #125
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Give me Delpit, Aiyuk and Gay in the first three rounds and put Veach in the ring of honor.
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Any mock that has allowed me to do that has gone EXACTLY that way. Doesn't happen often; Delpit slides that far maybe one in 4 times, Aiyuk about the same (Gay's usually there in the 3rd still).

I don't think I could draw up a more ideal set of outcomes for me. Solomon Kindley falls into the 4th on fair occasion and I'd sprint to the podium there (even if he does need some work in pass pro). Alton Robinson has an outside shot there as well and he'd also be a great pick by the 4th. Veach pulls that off somehow and I couldn't care less what happens in the 5th. Ke'Shawn Vaughn as a between the tackles option?

So who do y'all think is the best possible RB available to the Chiefs in the 2nd? 3rd?

Swift is obviously out. Likely Dobbins. Could Taylor be there? Maaaaaaaybe. In the 3rd you're looking at maybe Akers and Edwards-Helaire, right? And that's not to say I think those guys will be there, but rather that they're the best case scenario option. I don't think it's IMPOSSIBLE that Taylor falls to the late 2nd or Akers to the late 3rd.
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Old 04-16-2020, 10:35 AM   #126
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FAPFAPFAPFAPFAP

Any mock that has allowed me to do that has gone EXACTLY that way. Doesn't happen often; Delpit slides that far maybe one in 4 times, Aiyuk about the same (Gay's usually there in the 3rd still).

I don't think I could draw up a more ideal set of outcomes for me. Solomon Kindley falls into the 4th on fair occasion and I'd sprint to the podium there (even if he does need some work in pass pro). Alton Robinson has an outside shot there as well and he'd also be a great pick by the 4th. Veach pulls that off somehow and I couldn't care less what happens in the 5th. Ke'Shawn Vaughn as a between the tackles option?

So who do y'all think is the best possible RB available to the Chiefs in the 2nd? 3rd?

Swift is obviously out. Likely Dobbins. Could Taylor be there? Maaaaaaaybe. In the 3rd you're looking at maybe Akers and Edwards-Helaire, right? And that's not to say I think those guys will be there, but rather that they're the best case scenario option. I don't think it's IMPOSSIBLE that Taylor falls to the late 2nd or Akers to the late 3rd.
Edwards Helaire probably goes in the 2nd, I think it's roughly 50/50 that any RB's go in the 1st but once 1 goes there may be a mini run. Taylor has elite open field speed so he's probably going to be the 1st or 2nd rb taken.
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Do you really think they’re going to take a safety? I mean that almost certainly means they’re going to cut Dirty Dan and I just get the sense that they love the guy and he’ll be here next year playing his role, not a 1st rounder.

I’d love to be wrong, just my guy feeling.
If the Chiefs are truly going BPA, and knowing there are other running backs and WR's available early that can make an early impact, I can see them taking Delpit.

While Sorensen can finish out his contract, continue to ace Special Teams and occasionally drop into the 3rd Down LB role, Delpit can move all over the field and more importantly, cover TE's and taller WR's like Mike Williams.

I mean, 6'3, 4.39 40 coupled with his football instincts and IQ? Seems like a no-brainer to me.
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I just think they’re going to want an immediate impact. They’re all-in on a repeat.

Again, I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t see them going in that direction for that reason. It’s also the reason why I’m kinda buying all the smoke on a RB. I still don’t think they do that, but when trying to project wha this team is going to do in the 1st, I can’t help but think getting an immediate impact is priority #1.
I think it's pretty interesting that they added another RB and brought back Breeland so close to the draft.

I want to say they're going to target a fatty. Either hoping a tackle falls that they can play at Guard for awhile.

Andy loves taking some fatties.
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Any mock that has allowed me to do that has gone EXACTLY that way. Doesn't happen often; Delpit slides that far maybe one in 4 times, Aiyuk about the same (Gay's usually there in the 3rd still).

I don't think I could draw up a more ideal set of outcomes for me. Solomon Kindley falls into the 4th on fair occasion and I'd sprint to the podium there (even if he does need some work in pass pro). Alton Robinson has an outside shot there as well and he'd also be a great pick by the 4th. Veach pulls that off somehow and I couldn't care less what happens in the 5th. Ke'Shawn Vaughn as a between the tackles option?

So who do y'all think is the best possible RB available to the Chiefs in the 2nd? 3rd?

Swift is obviously out. Likely Dobbins. Could Taylor be there? Maaaaaaaybe. In the 3rd you're looking at maybe Akers and Edwards-Helaire, right? And that's not to say I think those guys will be there, but rather that they're the best case scenario option. I don't think it's IMPOSSIBLE that Taylor falls to the late 2nd or Akers to the late 3rd.
I think our best options for RB are Akers in round 2 or Moss/Gibson is round 3. Maybe we get lucky and one of Dobbins or CEH falls to us in the 2nd or somehow Akers makes it to us in round 3 (even less likely IMO).

After that, I’m likely waiting till round 5 and taking the RB steal of the draft in Deejay Dallas.
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I think it's pretty interesting that they added another RB and brought back Breeland so close to the draft.

I want to say they're going to target a fatty. Either hoping a tackle falls that they can play at Guard for awhile.

Andy loves taking some fatties.
Washington isn't a starter, he's basically a 3rd down back.

I think if anything that move tells me the Chiefs aren't happy with their RB position in general.
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I think it's pretty interesting that they added another RB and brought back Breeland so close to the draft.

I want to say they're going to target a fatty. Either hoping a tackle falls that they can play at Guard for awhile.

Andy loves taking some fatties.
In 7 years, how much have the Chiefs invested in their interior line?
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Old 04-16-2020, 10:41 AM   #132
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Well yeah you’re not going to have him. Doesn’t mean they aren’t effective. If the Ravens take Espenesa and have Judon, Wolfe, Campbell and Espenesa up front, that’s pretty goddamn good.

It’s a copycat league and FA showed us that teams are trying to copy the Chiefs and 49ers. That’s why the Colts traded for Buckner, Broncos trades for Casey, Raiders signed Collins, and Ravens trades for Campbell & signed Wolfe.

The Ravens and Broncos are literally trying to copy us. Just watch next week. I guarantee both teams will draft multiple speed receivers to bulk up their roster and help their QB like we do with our trio.

Such is life in the NFL
Again, that's like going out and getting Brandin Cooks, Tyler Boyd, Evan Engram to pair with Derek Carr and saying "there, we've rebuilt the Chiefs offense..."

You haven't. You've found reasonable facsimiles and a lot of nice players that make for a really good group, but it isn't going to duplicate the one fire-breathing monster that exists in this league.

The Ravens can try to do what the 49ers have done if they'd like, but they don't have the force multiplier they need to make it happen. Wolfe was never elite, Campbell's past his prime, Judon's a nice player and Epenesa is a good player but unlikely to be a truly great one.

Ravens can purse that front if they want, but they'll fail.
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Best overall RB Swift.

Best inside zone, Taylor.

Best outside zone, Dobbins.

I would take Swift but Dobbins fits what we would want him to do very well. Dobbins is devastating on those plays.
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What’s the feeling here about Jeremy Chinn?

Is he a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round pick?


How about Kyle Dugger?
Some folks really REALLY like Chinn. And man I want to.

But I can't find a role for him that isn't strictly situational. He's like some bastard child of Dirty Dan and Dorian O'Daniel. Which may be a damn good football player.

But the hell if I feel like trying to find a role for him. That's just making your defense that much more difficult to play 'straight up' with.

I'd take him in the 3rd if he were there (he won't be), but because I specifically cannot find a way to use him outside of a situational role and because he has some small school concerns, I just don't think I could talk myself into using the 2 you'd likely need to burn to get him.
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Some folks really REALLY like Chinn. And man I want to.

But I can't find a role for him that isn't strictly situational. He's like some bastard child of Dirty Dan and Dorian O'Daniel. Which may be a damn good football player.

But the hell if I feel like trying to find a role for him. That's just making your defense that much more difficult to play 'straight up' with.

I'd take him in the 3rd if he were there (he won't be), but because I specifically cannot find a way to use him outside of a situational role and because he has some small school concerns, I just don't think I could talk myself into using the 2 you'd likely need to burn to get him.
He has Isiah Simmons athletic makeup, and in todays sub heavy NFL he likely plays a lot but you better be damn sure a guy who spent a lot of time at safety is up to playing weakside LB and sub package LB cause that's what youre drafting him to be and that transition doesn't always work...
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