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Old 11-15-2013, 11:59 AM  
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Miami Dolphins Star Jonathan Martin Being Treated For PTSD
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Miami Dolphins offensive tackle Jonathan Martin is being treated for post-traumatic stress disorder and depression amidst allegations that he was threatened, harassed and menaced by teammates, chiefly Richie Incognito, RadarOnline.com has exclusively learned.

Martin, 24, is not expected to report back to the team anytime soon, as he works with specialists in Los Angeles and awaits clearance to return.

We’re now learning exactly what he’s being treated for.

“It’s depression and PTSD… which is directly related to the bullying he endured by Richie and other teammates,” a source close to the situation told Radar.

“Jonathan wants to play football again, but he absolutely can’t play for the Miami Dolphins. That said, football isn’t the focus right now. It’s receiving treatment and moving forward.”

The insider said Martin “hates all of the publicity this has gotten,” but added that when the time is right, “Jonathan will speak out about what really happened” inside the Dolphins locker room.

As we previously reported, the Dolphins have suspended Incognito while an investigation takes place — a club suspension for conduct detrimental to the team has a maximum of four weeks, per the league’s collective bargaining agreement. Incognito could appeal as well.

Last weekend, 30-year-old Incognito sat down with Jay Glazer of FOX in an effort to explain vicious voicemails and text messages he’d left for Martin.

“This is not an issue about bullying. This is an issue about my and John’s relationship. I had Jonathan Martin’s back the absolute most,” he said, in the interview.

He also claimed that Martin once texted HIM that he was going to kill “my entire family.”

It was just the way they communicated, Incognito said.

Meanwhile, the NFL formally asked Dolphins owner, Steve Ross, and the team’s CEO, Tom Garfinkel, to postpone their meeting with Martin.

“Ted Wells and the National Football League have asked that we delay our meeting with Jonathan Martin until they have the opportunity to meet with him,” Garfinkel said in a statement earlier this week.

“Out of deference to the process, we will cooperate with their request. We look forward to meeting with Jonathan as soon as possible.”

Martin is expected to meet with the Ted Wells, the special investigator appointed by NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell in the next few days, a source said.

“Jonathan’s lawyer, David Cornwell has been in constant contact with Ted. The NFL has been very supportive of Jonathan and respects that he is dealing with a very serious mental health conditions,” the source added.

Martin’s lawyer, David Cornwell, didn’t immediately respond to multiple requests for comment.
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Old 11-15-2013, 01:51 PM   #121
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I get your point, but every mind is different - trauma - any type - can manifest itself in numerous ways.
And the less stable a person the more prone.

The less healthy a person the more likely to...
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Old 11-15-2013, 01:59 PM   #122
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I think this is a really dangerous way of thinking. Once again, you are putting the responsibility of having PTSD on the victim. Saying that 'it's your fault this happened. If you were stronger or more stable, it wouldn't have...'

It's just not right.
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Old 11-15-2013, 02:01 PM   #123
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It still doesn't make any sense.

If he's an effective and productive starting left tackle in the NFL, he can earn that much in free agency in three years or less.
Except winning a slam dunk court case gets him that kind of money without risking CTE, concussions, or serious injury.

I'm not saying he's "evil" - hell, it's actually the logical thing to do.
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That is just wrong. Stability has nothing to do with it.
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Except winning a slam dunk court case gets him that kind of money without risking CTE, concussions, or serious injury.

I'm not saying he's "evil" - hell, it's actually the logical thing to do.

This is idiotic.
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I think this is a really dangerous way of thinking. Once again, you are putting the responsibility of having PTSD on the victim. Saying that 'it's your fault this happened. If you were stronger or more stable, it wouldn't have...'

It's just not right.
Wait, what's not right? Are you saying you believe that those who have a "strong mind" are just as susceptible to PTSD as those with "weak minds"?
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I think this is a really dangerous way of thinking. Once again, you are putting the responsibility of having PTSD on the victim. Saying that 'it's your fault this happened. If you were stronger or more stable, it wouldn't have...'

It's just not right.
Yeah, it is.

At some point you cut it off.

You have common sense.
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Wait, what's not right? Are you saying you believe that those who have a "strong mind" are just as susceptible to PTSD as those with "weak minds"?

Yes. Because "weak minded" and "strong minded" aren't really things... they don't exist. They are cave man labels.
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Yes. Because "weak minded" and "strong minded" aren't really things... they don't exist. They are cave man labels.
Well, I put those in quotes for a reason.

Let me ask you: Are some people more susceptible to depression, PTSD and other mental disorders?
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Yes. Because "weak minded" and "strong minded" aren't really things... they don't exist. They are cave man labels.
Like "consent" and "forced."
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Like "consent" and "forced."
what is your point?
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