Geno Smith outplaying Mark Sanchez

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http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/stor...-training-camp

CORTLAND, N.Y. -- Rookie Geno Smith has outplayed Mark Sanchez through the first week of training camp, pulling even or perhaps ahead in the New York Jets' quarterback competition.

"He can do more" than Sanchez, one veteran said Wednesday, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

It was Sanchez's turn to lead the starting unit and he struggled, throwing an interception for the second straight practice. Smith has yet to throw an interception in team drills over the first five practices.

It's premature to anoint a starter -- after all, they haven't begun live tackling -- but the early development is noteworthy because people close to the team expected Sanchez, based on his experience, to look sharper than Smith at the outset. That hasn't been the case.

"Everybody gets enamored with the guy who throws a 96 mph fastball," coach Rex Ryan said of Smith. To be politically correct, Ryan quickly added, "But Mark certainly has a good enough arm to play in this league."

It didn't sound like a ringing endorsement. Sanchez declined to say whether he believes he's leading the competition.

"I don't know, ask the coaches," he said. "I feel good, though. I feel confident. I feel like I'm playing really well."

Smith has sparkled with his accuracy, but he tends to hold the ball too long when facing pressure, according to Ryan. That, he said, "concerns me a little bit." The organization knows what it has in Sanchez, who was benched late last season.

Privately, the hope is that Smith can master the offense and seize the starting job. Even if he doesn't win it, Smith will be involved in the offense. Even though Tim Tebow is gone, Ryan said he remains committed to running the ball from the quarterback position.

He's intrigued by Smith's running ability, which would give the Jets a run-pass option at the quarterback position. Ryan acknowledged the plan, admitting last year's strategy under former coordinator Tony Sparano was ill-conceived. They never trusted Tebow to throw the ball. Whenever they used him, it usually was a read-option running play between the tackles.

"I think if that's the only thing you do with that position, why don't you just leave a running back in, a guy that's trained to do it?" Ryan said, second-guessing last season's approach. "If you're going to have a quarterback do it, like a (Colin) Kaepernick or somebody like that, it becomes more of a weapon because you know it's not just Tebow coming and he's going to run the ball. That's kind of where we were last year."

Ryan laughed when asked if he plans to use the Wildcat (or read-option) more than last year. Tebow finished with 32 rushes, averaging only 3.2 yards per carry.

"We probably will because, you guys say it, we never used it," he said. "So I would say, yeah, I think that will be part of what we do."

In the Wildcat, the ball is snapped to a nonquarterback. In those situations, the Jets can utilize wide receiver Jeremy Kerley or a running back, probably Bilal Powell. When Smith is on the field, either as the starter or a change-of-pace quarterback, they can employ the read-option.

The presence of new quarterbacks coach David Lee, one of the Wildcat innovators, is another reason the team is planning to use it. Sanchez said he could run the read-option, but there's little chance of that happening. His running ability will forever be linked to the "Butt Fumble," when he ran into a lineman's rear end last season.

Smith's athleticism could be a factor in the quarterback decision. Sanchez acknowledged that Smith is "very talented when it comes to that stuff. But I can't worry about it." Sanchez joked about the quarterback competition, mentioning that he sees more front-office types on the field for practice, scribbling notes during routine drills.

He said it reminds him of his rookie year in 2009, when he won the job against Kellen Clemens.

"For you (reporters), it's your job, but it's funny to see everybody else charting stuff," he said. "Everything is under scrutiny. There's a ton of pressure. That's the way you like it; that's the way you play this position."

[9er guy]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

Thats nearly 60%.
In one round.

The percentage is misleading. You say it's 60% and that looks like a lot.

But the score is 16-12.

[Setsuna]

Hey Brando, it's not like Geno can't improve because you know, every QB coming out of college stays the same. That's logical.

+REP stonedstooge! Dane got curb stomped

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

That would push unworthy 2nd and even 3rd round prospects into the 1st.
Im sorry, but tackles matter. No matter how butt hurt everyone is over the fisher pick.

Pugh and Carimi come to mind as tackles that were pushed up. O suppose Kyle Long as well if he isn't going to be a LG.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

It starts and ends at quarterback. Period.

Which is why pass rushing is the most effective counter measure to good offenses.
You know what the counter measure to pass rushing is?
People talk about how Brady doesnt have 1st round Ts, and thats why coughlin and co. have been able push his shit in.
Because pass rushers are the # 2 most important players in the league now.
Whats the counter measure to pass rushers again?

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by 9er guy

The percentage is misleading. You say it's 60% and that looks like a lot.

But the score is 16-12.

16 in one round
and 12 in the other six.
There is nothing misleading about it.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Guru

I just can't take these Geno threads any longer. Seriously, why do any of you even care what he does at this point. He isn't a Chief and most likely never will be. Far as I'm concerned, I hope he fails miserably because I can't stand the Jets.

Everyone is too busy being a preseason genius.

"He's giving that piece of complete crap sanchez a run for his money in camp, he MUST be the chosen one we missed out on!"

Maybe we're just i old, i couldnt give a shit less... **** that guy and **** what he may or may NOT turn into.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

Which is why pass rushing is the most effective counter measure to good offenses.
You know what the counter measure to pass rushing is?
People talk about how Brady doesnt have 1st round Ts, and thats why coughlin and co. have been able push his shit in.
Because pass rushers are the # 2 most important players in the league now.
Whats the counter measure to pass rushers again?

Drafting a right tackle at #1 is ****ing stupid no matter how you want to spin it. If the Raiders, Chargers or Donks did what we just did we would be laughing our ass off at them.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by Clayton Bibsby

Hey Brando, it's not like Geno can't improve because you know, every QB coming out of college stays the same. That's logical.

+REP stonedstooge! Dane got curb stomped

Do you type your posts with your sphincter?

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Not many here would have had a problem with the Fisher pick...if we didn't already have Albert.

Shit, I've said all along that I actually like Fisher.

He has the tools to be really good at his job...but the difference between he and Albert isn't the differences between wins and losses.

If Von Miller is hot and hungry, and lined up on the left, Fisher may very well be the difference in winning and losing.

[Setsuna]

Originally Posted by Guru

I just can't take these Geno threads any longer. Seriously, why do any of you even care what he does at this point. He isn't a Chief and most likely never will be. Far as I'm concerned, I hope he fails miserably because I can't stand the Jets.

Example A

Originally Posted by scott free

Everyone is too busy being a preseason genius.

"He's giving that piece of complete crap sanchez a run for his money in camp, he MUST be the chosen one we missed out on!"

Maybe we're just i old, i couldnt give a shit less... **** that guy and **** what he may or may NOT turn into.

Example B


BUTT HURT

[Chiefshrink]

Geno and the NY press after Geno's first bad game and there will be many I assure you. Geno may even rival Leaf in due time

[ChiefsCountry]

We have Alex ****ing Smith as our quarterback. It wouldn't matter if we had Anthony Munoz, John Hannah, Mike Webster, Will Shields, and Orlando Pace as our OL. He still sucks.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Drafting a right tackle at #1 is ****ing stupid no matter how you want to spin it. If the Raiders, Chargers or Donks did what we just did we would be laughing our ass off at them.

The game is changing/has changed.
The RT is no longer considered a lumbering oaf.
The era of the QB and multiple pass rushers have changed many positions. Not just RT.

[Chiefshrink]

When Geno pulled that stunt on day one of the draft I just went "WoW"! That is very Leafesque. I no longer was a Geno fan from that point on.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

We have Alex ****ing Smith as our quarterback. It wouldn't matter if we had Anthony Munoz, John Hannah, Mike Webster, Will Shields, and Orlando Pace as our OL. He still sucks.

What about Richard Marx?