Star Wars Episode VIII SPOILERS thread

[DaneMcCloud]

For all things Episode VIII related info including spoilers.

The release date is now December 15, 2017.

The Official Synopsis from Star Wars.com

“In Lucasfilm’s Star Wars: The Last Jedi, the Skywalker saga continues as the heroes of The Force Awakens join the galactic legends in an epic adventure that unlocks age-old mysteries of the Force and shocking revelations of the past.

Star Wars: The Last Jedi opens in U.S. theaters on December 15, 2017.”









New footage in Japanese Trailer

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Star Wars Episode VIII is going to be completely unlike The Force Awakens according to its stars

After the bulletproof success of Star Wars: The Force Awakens, you might think Disney would do everything to keep things just as they are. But the sequel, "Episode VIII," is already shaping up to be a much different beast. At least that's what the stars are saying. The next film in the main Star Wars timeline, now in production, is being written and directed by Rian Johnson, best known for Looper.

John Boyega (who plays Finn) already revealed Johnson's Star Wars is "much darker." Adam Driver (Kylo Ren) says he's a "different" temperature from The Force Awakens director J.J. Abrams. Now Oscar Isaac has opened up a bit more about what's different in The Force Awakens follow-up.

"Rian is definitely going to places and investigating things that haven’t really been done in the 'Star Wars' universe," Isaac told the Los Angeles Times. "For me, it’s so fun getting to explore different things that I wouldn’t have expected in this universe. In some ways it feels like we’re making an independent film," he added. Isaac is known for his work in the indie world like Ex Machina and Inside Llewyn Davis. "Certain things we get to play with — this kind of intimacy that we get to find — it's special. It’s been really fun," Isaac said.

The best hint about what to expect in The Force Awakens sequel from Rian Johnson, however, comes from writer Lawrence Kasdan, who worked on The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens.

"Rian Johnson is a friend of mine — he's going to make some weird thing," Kasdan told the LA Times. "If you've seen Rian's work, you know it's not going be like anything that's ever been in Star Wars."

Hopefully Disney is ready for another kind of Force in the universe.

Did you see the "leaked script" story on Reddit? Highlights including Rey is the reincarnation of Anakin. She is the product of a virgin birth and is the chosen one - there have been many before her. Luke doesn't want to train her because she is, potentially, much more destructive than Kylo. She was a young padawan who was placed on Jakkut by Luke to hide her while he figures out what to do with her. Rey gets pissed and bitter, accusing Luke of being her father who abandoned her. He responds "No, you are my father" or something (imo) goofy like that. He then decides to train her but other threads in the movie cause her to leave and rescue friends (sound familiar?) and Luke gives her the same warning that Yoda gave him, but says that he's not Yoda and does things his own way. He joins her and they take off together to mount a rescue.

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Also here's a fun exploration of the Snoke identity:

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Oh here's a chunk of explanation based on the "leak":

https://m.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLeaks...debunkconfirm/

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by listopencil

Oh here's a chunk of explanation based on the "leak":

https://m.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLeaks...debunkconfirm/

Do not like.

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit

Do not like.

I'll go ahead and post the summary and put the things in red that I don't like:


I read a possible link, but cant find info: Please Debunk?
Spoilers:

• Working title is "Echoes of the Dark Side"
• It's divided into three equally important plot threads that don't converge until the third act: Rey's, Finn's, and Kylo's.
• There's not nearly as much action as TFA in the first two acts, but the third act goes full-on crazy.
• The broad structure isn't as similar to ESB as TFA was to ANH, but the parallels are still present. Rey is training in the ways of the Force with an old Jedi master (Luke) on a wild planet while Finn and Poe are in a beautiful city that has a shady, sinister underpinning. Finn and Poe are betrayed and captured by Kylo Ren who uses them as bait to draw Rey out of hiding so Kylo and Rey can have a duel in an industrial portion of the city.

• The backstory to Luke and his Jedi being wiped out is that Snoke seduced Kylo and a few of the other students to the dark side and tasked them with killing everyone. Luke and a few others survived, including a young Rey who was subsequently dumped on Jakku by Luke.
• Rey's mom died in the attack.
• Rey is pissed at Luke because she guesses that he was her father and is angry at him for abandoning her. Luke turns to her and says "No, you are my father".
• Yes, really.
• Rey is the reincarnation of Anakin Skywalker. Luke went to the first Jedi temple to better understand how the process works. He learned that the spirit of the chosen one is reincarnated by the Force every time the universe is thrown out of balance, which apparently happens on a semi-regular basis (Anakin was hardly the first time the chosen one reincarnated). This is why she's so crazy powerful with the Force (remember that Anakin blew up the Trade Federation donut ship by himself when he was like 8 years old).
• Rey was the product of a virgin birth, but midichlorians aren't mentioned (Luke says "you are a child of the Force").
• Luke is hesitant to train her because, according to Jedi history, the chosen one always struggles with staying on the light side of the Force because of the chaotic power running through them. He's afraid that she could become Vader 2.0. If he trains her to fight Kylo, and she turns dark, she would do way more damage to the galaxy than Kylo could ever dream of doing.
• He ultimately trains her anyway and leaves everything up to the Force. He makes this decision in a scene where he confers with the ghosts of Obi-Wan and Yoda (Ewan MacGregor and Frank Oz come back).
• Rey learns lightsaber skills, Force skills, and has a vision quest thing where she talks with Maz Kanata (unsure if it’s telepathy or just a dream) and Hayden Christenson. The latter tells her that she is him, but different, and there’s a quick scene where we see hundreds of other Force ghosts who are implied to be past chosen ones.
• Rey feels Finn's distress elsewhere in the galaxy and says she needs to go to him. Luke tells her about the time he felt his friends in distress and Yoda told him to stay and finish his training, and his disobedience led to pain. But then he says he isn't Yoda, and has his own way of doing things, and tags along with her to go help.

• Finn wakes up on a Resistance cruiser and is told by Poe that they're already en route to the makeshift Republic homeworld in the wake of the capital planet being blown up by Starkiller Base.
• Leia wants to lobby them to go to war.
• The Republic is being led by an interim dictator named Lord Vikram (Benicio Del Toro), who was quickly put into power by the few senators still around to maintain order.
• Starkiller's destruction of the Republic core worlds caused a galactic communications disruption because everything was routed through those worlds, so Vikram is trying to reestablish contact and ensure the Republic doesn't collapse into anarchy.
• Leia and Vikram butt heads. Vikram agrees that the Republic has to go to war with the First Order, but wants to wait for communications to come back online so they can muster up a sizable force (all they have right now is a single small fleet). Leia disagrees, and wants to take the war to the First Order now while Snoke is still reeling from Starkiller's destruction. She says both sides are in chaos, which makes this an opportune time to strike. Vikram counters by telling her she's letting her personal emotions over Han's death get in the way, and Leia throws it back at him by telling him he was always a little snake of a politician when they would argue back in her senate days, etc, etc, they have old bad blood or whatever.
• The Republic planet is safe because it's protected by a heavy duty shield that can repel any invasion or bombardment from the First Order.
• Finn and Poe are tasked by Leia to investigate the city because one of Leia's contacts informed her that the First Order have spies embedded in the Republic. Leia suspects Vikram.
• Finn quickly becomes enamored by Leia's contact, Chala (Kelly Marie Tran), who tags along with him and Poe through the underbelly of the city to gather information.
• Finn and Chala have a flirty romance subplot that involves a nighttime adventure through the rustic old city (this is the second entry in the trilogy after all, and poetry demands it).
• Finn, Poe and Chala all corner the culprit: Vikram's aide, who has evidence of contact between Vikram and the First Order. Leia and some Resistance fighters confront Vikram and throw him in jail for treason. He denies everything, and the rest of the Republic officials are horrified because Leia basically just coup-de-etat'd the **** out of their leadership. Leia assumes control of the planet's defenses and absentmindedly puts Finn in charge of the shield codes.
• Finn and Chala have a moment and Finn mentions his confusion about why Vikram didn't just lower the shields for the First Order. They walk into a room and Phasma is standing there and Chala draws a gun on Finn and forcibly takes the codes for disarming the shield from him. She says she planted the evidence, used Finn to get the codes, and basically that she thinks he's a dirty traitor to the First Order. In a moment of pure poetry, Phasma makes Finn lower the shields.
• The First Order fleet jumps out of hyperspace and invades the planet, quickly capturing Finn, Poe and Leia. Kylo starts to torture Finn using the Force, knowing that it will draw Rey out of hiding and into his trap.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Pretty much.

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit

Pretty much.

See, I'd do the code thing more like this:

When Leia assumes command she is presented with the codes; two physical devices that are meant to be similar to the "football" - POTUS nuclear launch codes device. She gives one to Finn immediately because they have to be attuned to a specific person to work and she trusts him completely by now, and a code device has to be activated according to protocol, but she's busy. He says he'll guard it with his life and goes to the code chamber. Chala goes with him.

Chala makes a sarcastic remark about how she only hooked up with him because he is going places, everybody laughs, ha ha ha. They get to the chamber and the guards stop them, a bit rudely. Finn tells them what's going on. They call Leia and she bitches at them, orders the guards to treat him well, telling them that Finn is an extension of her because he's the only one she trusts. The guards back off and allow Chala and Finn into the code device control room then lock it after them.

Inside Finn plugs the code device in a slot in a console. The console begins scanning him and he is startled. A 3D model of his body in outline pops up with his name over it. Immediately we see his fingertips, eyeballs and brain start to fill in. Chala looks at him and says, "See? This won't hurt a bit!" Then she hits him over the head with her blaster and he is knocked unconscious.

He wakes up in makeshift restraints as Chala does the big reveal and berates him for being a traitor. The console now displays "Chala" and the model of her body is about halfway filled in. He attacks her and they fight while simultaneously playing a strategic game of "capture the flag" over the console. The fight drags on and Finn eventually barely beats Chala and restrains her. He approaches the console to finish the attunement. Then you hear Phasma say, "Hello, Finn." He turns around as she clubs him to the ground. Behind her are the two smiling guards.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I want no redemption for Phasma. That character truly sucks.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by listopencil

Did you see the "leaked script" story on Reddit?

Good grief, I hope that's completely false.

What a travesty.

[DaneMcCloud]

That "leak" completely dismisses Laura Dern's character, who's already confirmed to take over the Resistance after Leia's accident and doesn't jibe with more reliable sources.

It sounds like fan fiction.

We can only hope...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Most fan-fic is fair to partly garbage-y.

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Leia practicing for VIII. NSFW, but the tags don't work on embed.

Spoiler!

If you haven't seen the show BTW, it's absolutely hilarious.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Good grief, I hope that's completely false.

What a travesty.

Yeah. It's horrible.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Can someone explain why the people from Force Awakens aren't in Rogue? Or are they? Swore I saw a trailer and none were in it.

[Jamie]

I could maybe roll with the child of the force thing, but the reincarnation stuff is a bridge too far. The "no, you're my father" line is sub-fanfic level hackery.

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

Can someone explain why the people from Force Awakens aren't in Rogue? Or are they? Swore I saw a trailer and none were in it.

Rogue One is a prequel, set just before A New Hope. It's the story of how the rebels stole the Death Star plans.