Chiefs Is it too early to start thinking about 2024? - Page 9

TLO · 12-10-2023, 07:23 PM

I don't want to give up on this current squad, but I think the evidence is clearly there that this isn't a Super Bowl caliber team.

There's plenty of reason for optimism heading into next season.

What kind of cap room are we working with?

What free agent WR's are likely to be available?

Talk about it here.

Hammock Parties · 12-10-2023, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'd say the Broncos knocking them out of the playoffs should cover it.

It wouldn't bother me a bit.

This would be really hard to take.

I almost feel like we'd have to give the rings back.

**Bearcat** · 12-10-2023, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

We knew how 2018 was going to end, even with Patrick being Patrick.

Deep down, we knew.

The Chiefs ended that regular season very inconsistently, too.

You know now.

I'd take hosting another AFCCG and overtime loss at this point... the NFL expecting to finally be free of the Arrowhead Invitational for a year just to say **** it, we're going in dry. That's far better than whimpering out in the WC or divisional round.

Sassy Squatch · 12-10-2023, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The difference in speed and energy from the defense in the 3rd and 4th quarters was startling. It made you realize how ****ing lazy they played in the first half.

And the offense - shit, what more can be said. None of them are playing well. Literally not a single guy on offense is playing at even 80% of what he's capable of.

They need to be embarrassed.

I'd say the Broncos knocking them out of the playoffs should cover it.

It wouldn't bother me a bit.

We could probably play significantly WORSE than we have been and still get in. This last slate of games is incredibly weak.

ThyKingdomCome15 · 12-10-2023, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

It's fine to coast and win.

This is wayyyy different.

That's really what it is. We're resting on our laurels.

MahomesMagic · 12-10-2023, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

We could probably play significantly WORSE than we have been and still get in. This last slate of games is incredibly weak.

Bengals will be a problem.

tk13 · 12-10-2023, 09:17 PM

There's still a quarter of the season to go. We have not been the #1 seed every year with Mahomes, we've just been able to have the games go in a way that gave us every game in Arrowhead. I wonder if today makes them go harder after someone like Ertz. Rice keeps improving. The AFC is more wide open than it's ever been. Plenty of work to do but it's not over.

KC_Connection · 12-10-2023, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The difference in speed and energy from the defense in the 3rd and 4th quarters was startling. It made you realize how ****ing lazy they played in the first half.

And the offense - shit, what more can be said. None of them are playing well. Literally not a single guy on offense is playing at even 80% of what he's capable of.

They need to be embarrassed.

I'd say the Broncos knocking them out of the playoffs should cover it.

It wouldn't bother me a bit.

You noticed that difference too, eh? It was laughable how hard they were playing in the 4th quarter especially compared to the 1st half. That's just unacceptable for this kind of rivalry game against a very motivated Bills team, but it tells you where this team is at mentally.

And I would hope the last month has been enough embarrassment to not have to go through your scenario, but we'll see.

I still have seen nothing that would deter me from the idea that this team's ceiling is still good enough to win a SB, particularly in a league with as few elite QBs as this one has right now. Will they reach it consistently in the playoffs for 4 games? Probably not. But I'd rather give the best QB in the league the chance.

ThyKingdomCome15 · 12-10-2023, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Bengals will be a problem.

They'll get all the calls just like the Bills and Packers. They're desperate and the league says it's for business for the Chiefs to lose to bubble teams.

Chiefnj2 · 12-10-2023, 09:20 PM

You never give up on a season when you are a playoff team in a conference without a dominant team.

There is a chance the Chiefs lose Jones and Sneed and all of a sudden the D isn’t very good. Kelce is already slowing down and they are contractually stuck with an overpriced RT. There is no guarantee next year will be better.

DJ's left nut · 12-10-2023, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

We could probably play significantly WORSE than we have been and still get in. This last slate of games is incredibly weak.

I don't even disagree.

The problem is that the players and coaches realize it as well.

But I don't think this is a team that can flip a switch. Again - they're not as good as they think they are.

I think they'll make the playoffs. But I genuinely wonder if they wouldn't be better served missing them. They're gonna sneak in, hit the nitrous button in the post-season and be surprised to find that they're still just a running a stick Civic out there.

TEX · 12-10-2023, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

There's still a quarter of the season to go. We have not been the #1 seed every year with Mahomes, we've just been able to have the games go in a way that gave us every game in Arrowhead. I wonder if today makes them go harder after someone like Ertz. Rice keeps improving. The AFC is more wide open than it's ever been. Plenty of work to do but it's not over.

This year is different. This Chiefs team is not a legit contender. They'll make the playoffs but wont get far. They are who they are and they have been since week 1.

tredadda · 12-10-2023, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

This year is different. This Chiefs team is not a legit contender. They'll make the playoffs but wont get far. They are who they are and they have been since week 1.

Thanks.

tk13 · 12-10-2023, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

This year is different. This Chiefs team is not a legit contender. They'll make the playoffs but wont get far. They are who they are and they have been since week 1.

We have the best QB and a top 10 defense. We 100% have a chance.

ThaVirus · 12-10-2023, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

This is a team that lacks focus and discipline. It has all season.

Now they're yelling at coaches and calling out officials for not giving them mulligans on clear penalties.

They need to be humbled. Badly. Players and staff. Superstars and depth guys; coaches and executives. They need their dicks knocked into the dirt in the worst way.

Is it too early to look to 2024? No, not at all. And frankly I'm looking forward to it.

Good Lord. Not you too..

DJ's left nut · 12-10-2023, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

You noticed that difference too, eh? It was laughable how hard they were playing in the 4th quarter especially compared to the 1st half. That's just unacceptable for this kind of rivalry game against a very motivated Bills team, but it tells you where this team is at mentally.

And I would hope the last month has been enough embarrassment to not have to go through your scenario, but we'll see.

I still have seen nothing that would deter me from the idea that this team's ceiling is still good enough to win a SB, particularly in a league with as few elite QBs as this one has right now. Will they reach it consistently in the playoffs for 4 games? Probably not. But I'd rather give the best QB in the league the chance.

Yeah, I'm trying to remember which drive it was specifically but it was completely inescapable at that point. I think it was when we got to 17-14. It was alarming. Night and day shit.

I'd have been less annoyed had they continued to coast.

All they did was prove how little they gave a shit prior to that point.

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TLO Life is changing.. Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: NW Missouri Casino cash: $-740000	Is it too early to start thinking about 2024? I don't want to give up on this current squad, but I think the evidence is clearly there that this isn't a Super Bowl caliber team. There's plenty of reason for optimism heading into next season. What kind of cap room are we working with? What free agent WR's are likely to be available? Talk about it here.
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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-47500	There's still a quarter of the season to go. We have not been the #1 seed every year with Mahomes, we've just been able to have the games go in a way that gave us every game in Arrowhead. I wonder if today makes them go harder after someone like Ertz. Rice keeps improving. The AFC is more wide open than it's ever been. Plenty of work to do but it's not over.
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12-10-2023, 09:20 PM	#129
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $7604388	You never give up on a season when you are a playoff team in a conference without a dominant team. There is a chance the Chiefs lose Jones and Sneed and all of a sudden the D isn’t very good. Kelce is already slowing down and they are contractually stuck with an overpriced RT. There is no guarantee next year will be better. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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