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Old 03-13-2023, 05:32 PM   #13336
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Old 03-13-2023, 05:38 PM   #13337
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Old 03-13-2023, 06:04 PM   #13338
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Golden opportunity to make some 100% gains on bank stocks

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I'm pondering this as well. I picked up some miniscule amounts of SCHW and ABCB today. I really can't figure out why this stuff would have tanked SCHW so badly.
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Old 03-13-2023, 06:07 PM   #13339
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I'm pondering this as well. I picked up some miniscule amounts of SCHW and ABCB today. I really can't figure out why this stuff would have tanked SCHW so badly.
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Old 03-13-2023, 06:20 PM   #13340
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I'm just taking a wild guess - I don't know the author of the article or have any super-secret inside info or anything - but maybe they were referring to Feb/March 2020 when the Dow went from almost 30K to 18k in 3 weeks.

Some nonsense called Covid or something. Maybe you were absent or on vacation and didn't hear about it?

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Old 03-13-2023, 06:37 PM   #13341
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Golden opportunity to make some 100% gains on bank stocks

I grabbed some PACW and FRC for the rebound
The good news is I got WAL in the low $8's. Was looking for bottoming price action and wanted to buy once it cleared the nearest whole-dollar psychological barrier which turned out to be $8.

The bad news is I piked out in the low $11s out of one of the early volatility halts. I was thrilled at first because it was a scary stock to be in and I was just glad the trade worked, then it went almost straight up over $25 and I wanted to puke. Left a lot of meat on that bone. Almost feels like a loss.
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Old 03-13-2023, 07:43 PM   #13342
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I know this dude pretty well. We had the same mentor (Tim Sykes) and started in his program at almost exactly the same time. Jack started late 2016, I started early 2017. He's taken it a little further than me at this point, but I'm hot on his heels.

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A 24-year-old stock trader who made over $8 million in 2 years shares the 4 indicators he uses as his guides to buy and sell
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  • One of Jack Kellogg's main indicators is the volume-weighted average price (VWAP).
  • This shows the average price paid for shares and helps him gauge sentiment.
  • He only uses indicators as a t=rough guide but never trades solely on them, he noted.
  • Jack Kellogg began trading stocks right out of high school in 2017.

Five years into his craft, he has already been exposed to various types of market conditions, including the stock market crash of 2020, the raging bull rallies of 2021, and the bear market of 2022. One thing he has learned through it all is to keep things simple and remain flexible.

"There's this acronym: KISS, keep it simple stupid. I don't think people need super fancy indicators to make money trading. I'm just using basic trend lines, support, resistance, volume, and those are all my indicators," Kellogg said. "I think if you overcomplicate the indicators, it will actually throw off your trading because then you're trading more on the indicators than the actual price action."

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Man that's awesome. And nice to see he's not using some crazy formulas and mostly just technical analysis.

I'll be honest, my trading only works in bull markets where I can be very successful trading for a profit that's a lot more than the index. However, I don't have the skills to be making money in markets like 2022 and so far 2023. Johnny, what are some of the strategies he'd be using in a market like 2022 to make such good money?
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Old 03-14-2023, 06:51 AM   #13343
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Golden opportunity to make some 100% gains on bank stocks

I grabbed some PACW and FRC for the rebound

Made a killin this morning on both these. Already sold and re entered on the pull back . Plan to grab more if they drop at market open. FRC was at $123 eight days ago. Can't imagine it doesn't hit $75 -$85 within 2 weeks now
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Man that's awesome. And nice to see he's not using some crazy formulas and mostly just technical analysis.

I'll be honest, my trading only works in bull markets where I can be very successful trading for a profit that's a lot more than the index. However, I don't have the skills to be making money in markets like 2022 and so far 2023. Johnny, what are some of the strategies he'd be using in a market like 2022 to make such good money?
He's really just all about price action and studying. He works harder and studies more than anyone I've ever come in contact with in the trading business. He really capitalized on the crazy bull market at the end of 2020 and early 2021. Worked himself to the point of exhaustion and into some health problems that took him awhile to get over. He's toned it down a bit now.

But yeah, he's a master of price action. Whereas newbs are buying breakouts, high of day breaks, etc., Jack is buying the consolidation at the end of a down trend just before it reverses. So he's selling into the newbs who are buying breakouts and HOD breaks.

He also had the balls to size way up during that period in late 2020/early 2021. He crossed $1M in total trading profits in November 2020, and by March 2021 he was over $6M. So he really went all-in during that crazy run.

We're required to integrate our broker's trading platform with a tracking system called Profit.ly, so all our trades are automatically uploaded into their system. So you can't cheat the system or fudge numbers. As the Business Insider article claimed, they verified his numbers with tax returns. I'll attach Jack's Profit.ly profit chart, you can see the almost parabolic rise in his profits at the end of 2020 to early 2021.


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WAL was at 7.50 yesterday .

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I'm just taking a wild guess - I don't know the author of the article or have any super-secret inside info or anything - but maybe they were referring to Feb/March 2020 when the Dow went from almost 30K to 18k in 3 weeks.

Some nonsense called Covid or something. Maybe you were absent or on vacation and didn't hear about it?

Four months later it was back at the original level. That was a large extended bear trap. To say this cat is a "seasoned veteran" trader since 2017 is laughable.
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Four months later it was back at the original level. That was a large extended bear trap. To say this cat is a "seasoned veteran" trader since 2017 is laughable.
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WAL was at 7.50 yesterday .

Now its at 37
Yeah tell me about it
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Four months later it was back at the original level. That was a large extended bear trap. To say this cat is a "seasoned veteran" trader since 2017 is laughable.
Yeah, dude, he kind of is.

I'm going to be 40 this year. I graduated in 2002. And I certainly paid attention to the .com bubble and 9/11 I wasn't trading anything there. I got out of grad school in 07, and I had a good $5 maybe $6 in the markets when 2008 happened, the impact to the labor market mattered WAY more than my $5 going to $4 or whatever.

Along my timeline (I understand not everybody goes to grad school and you can invest earlier than I did if you've got the money), but in order for anybody to have real money invested in 2008 along my timeline, they have to be what? 10 years older than me? That's 50 and you need to start looking at taking risk off the table.

That's a pretty narrow swath of dudes that have taken bullets with real capital. PLUS, way more shit has happened since 2017 than from 2008 to 2017. And if the recession lasts very long at all you're going to be pushing for dudes going back to the 80s, and those guys aren't around.
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Oh, this is nice. When Signature Bank collapsed, they replaced it on the S&P 500 with BG (Bunge). I have a lot of BG stock, and it spiked up since the ETFs will all need to start buying it. Out of the ashes rises a phoenix.
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