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12-29-2022, 11:59 AM | #13201 | |
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12-29-2022, 12:35 PM | #13202 | |
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So while my emergency fund needs built back a bit to my normal level, I feel like not maxing my ROTH this year is a bad idea just to put my emergency fund where I want it, even though I can withdraw on a ROTH if needed almost like an emergency fund. I hope I'm making sense. |
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12-29-2022, 12:39 PM | #13203 | |
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Dividends are paid off the stock price. So getting an 8% dividend is not like it's extra cash. After a stock goes ex-dividend, the share price typically drops by the amount of the dividend paid to reflect the fact that new shareholders are not entitled to that payment. So while you're getting a "dividend," you capital tied up in the share price is dropping too. Couple that with a stock that still changes value like any other stock and that $50k you put in this year, could easily only be worth $30k just from a bear market alone. Too many people think dividends are free money, and most are not. |
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12-29-2022, 12:55 PM | #13204 | |
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The Roth IRA as an Emergency Fund The advantage of putting emergency savings into a Roth IRA is that you don’t miss the limited opportunity to make that year’s retirement contribution. You can only contribute a few thousand dollars to a Roth IRA each year, and once a year passes without a contribution, you lose the opportunity to make it forever. However, accessing these funds should be your last resort... The part of your Roth IRA contribution earmarked as your emergency fund doesn't belong in stocks, bonds, or mutual funds like a typical retirement contribution. It belongs in a liquid account (meaning cash or something that can easily be converted to cash and that earns interest) that can be withdrawn from at a moment's notice without losing principal. Last edited by KCUnited; 12-29-2022 at 01:07 PM.. |
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12-29-2022, 01:08 PM | #13205 | |
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I'll max my contribution this year but leave the chunk I'm putting in now in a money market fund until my actual emergency savings is back to level. When it gets there, this chunk will get invested. |
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12-29-2022, 01:24 PM | #13206 | |
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12-29-2022, 02:02 PM | #13207 | |
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Yeah, that makes sense. Depending on your broker, you may need to choose a money market fund or they may default free cash into one. Vanguard defaults to a good one, Schwab puts me into a cash account that pays nothing but you can buy SWVXX or one of the others and get 4% interest or so Quote:
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12-29-2022, 02:03 PM | #13208 | |
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Keep in mind it's 7.4% yearly but pays monthly which gives you an advantage in compounding. |
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12-29-2022, 02:45 PM | #13209 | |
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I'm interested in what you say about the price action of a dividend stock dropping when a dividend is paid. That's interesting. Seems like there would be no point in owning a dividend stock. My daughter invested $3200 in MAIN exactly 2 years ago and the value now is $4181. ETRADE says her gain is 12.56% Thats 30.65% increase by my calculation 3200 to 4181 . What am I missing? |
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12-29-2022, 03:58 PM | #13210 | |
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12-29-2022, 04:07 PM | #13211 | |
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Her initial purchase was 100 shares at 31.962 on 1/6/2021 So why don't they calculate the dividend reinvestment into the end result ?? STUPED computers! |
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12-29-2022, 05:39 PM | #13212 |
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Yeah, that's a pet peeve of mine. If you buy $1,000 of stock and it pays at 10% dividend and doesn't change in price, then reinvesting dividends will report that you have a return of 0% when it's really 10%.
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12-29-2022, 07:51 PM | #13213 |
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I suppose since you paid taxes on the dividends that were reinvested it’s technically not a gain. However, I have the same annoyance since I just want to be able to glance at my brokerage account and get a good picture of how much return I’ve had on my original investment.
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12-30-2022, 02:25 PM | #13214 |
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What about SSSS It's near a 52 week low pays a qtly dividend at a rate of 11.37%
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12-30-2022, 03:07 PM | #13215 | |
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It just seems like it should be a problem that's been solved, and it hasn't.
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