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**DaneMcCloud** · 02:08 PM

For all things Episode VIII related info including spoilers.

The release date is now December 15, 2017.

The Official Synopsis from Star Wars.com

“In Lucasfilm’s Star Wars: The Last Jedi, the Skywalker saga continues as the heroes of The Force Awakens join the galactic legends in an epic adventure that unlocks age-old mysteries of the Force and shocking revelations of the past.

Star Wars: The Last Jedi opens in U.S. theaters on December 15, 2017.”

New footage in Japanese Trailer

DJ's left nut · 11-03-2017, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

They probably have some kind of conflict, just not actual combat.

I'm sure. And hell, that may be the end of an actual 'sparring' session. But the video sure seems to be acting as though that's her gearing up to wreck shit and I find that pretty damn unlikely.

I'm still rooting for Dane's suggestion, though. Rey and Kylo team up at the end of VIII and IX culminates in Luke vs. Rey/Kylo with Poe and Finn directly confronting/defeating the First Order.

Red Brooklyn · 11-03-2017, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

They probably have some kind of conflict, just not actual combat.

I could totally see a:

Rey: Imma go kill Snoke.
Luke: Grrrrl, you ain't ready.
Rey: EFF YOU AM SO!

They have a bit of a Force fight. Her anger gets the better of her and she knocks the old man down, draws the blade.

Luke: This won't end like you think it will. Trust me.

Rey lowers the blade. They hug it out. Luke continues to train her. Or Yoda gets involved because she's so special and powerful, maybe. Whatever.

Something like that seems very possible.

temper11 · 11-03-2017, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'm sure. And hell, that may be the end of an actual 'sparring' session. But the video sure seems to be acting as though that's her gearing up to wreck shit and I find that pretty damn unlikely.

I'm still rooting for Dane's suggestion, though. Rey and Kylo team up at the end of VIII and IX culminates in Luke vs. Rey/Kylo with Poe and Finn directly confronting/defeating the First Order.

I just do not see Disney turning Rey into a villain. Luke is the hero of my generation. To this new generation, he's just an old one-armed man. Rey stays the hero.

Hammock Parties · 11-03-2017, 11:33 AM

Snoke is an acronym.

Sith No One Knew Existed

**Bowser** · 11-03-2017, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Snoke is an acronym.

Sith No One Knew Existed

Heh, not bad.

Was he the contact Palpatine had out in the Unknown Regions?

**Bowser** · 11-03-2017, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn

I could totally see a:

Rey: Imma go kill Snoke.
Luke: Grrrrl, you ain't ready.
Rey: EFF YOU AM SO!

They have a bit of a Force fight. Her anger gets the better of her and she knocks the old man down, draws the blade.

Luke: This won't end like you think it will. Trust me.

Rey lowers the blade. They hug it out. Luke continues to train her. Or Yoda gets involved because she's so special and powerful, maybe. Whatever.

Something like that seems very possible.

You might be on to something there.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-03-2017, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Snoke is an acronym.

Sith No One Knew Existed

The old Mike Zeroh theory

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-03-2017, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Heh, not bad.

Was he the contact Palpatine had out in the Unknown Regions?

Pablo Hidalgo has already implicitly stated that neither Snoke nor Kylo Ren are not and were not ever Sith at any point in time.

**Bowser** · 11-03-2017, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Pablo Hidalgo has already implicitly stated that neither Snoke nor Kylo Ren are not and were not ever Sith at any point in time.

I've missed that.

Well, if that is the case and they are something new and more sinister, I guess it would make sense for Luke to want to end the traditional Jedi to fight the new threat in a new and improved fashion.

I still hold on to that slim slice of a theory just based on the Wendig books. Getting to the Unknown Regions was the main goal to find Palpatine's lost Super Star Destroyer that set out on a mission years before. Sounds like a long shot, but we'll see.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-03-2017, 11:52 AM

Also, by the time The Force Awakens takes place, there hadn't been any Jedi or Sith in the galaxy for 30 years and if you count Order 66 and The Purge, at least 50 years.

There were only 10,000 Jedi Knights in a galaxy filled with trillions of sentient life forms so forgetting about the Jedi or believing they were a myth is easy to believe. Add to the fact that the Sith were known to be extinct for generations prior, so there's no reason to give Snoke an anagram of "Sith No One Knew Existed" because people didn't know about the Sith or even that Emperor Palpatine was a Sith.

People like Hux calling him "Leader Snoke" and "Supreme Leader Snoke" doesn't make sense.

"Supreme Leader Sith No One Knew Existed" sounds even dumber.

Red Brooklyn · 11-03-2017, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Heh, not bad.

Was he the contact Palpatine had out in the Unknown Regions?

I don't know about "contact" but I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Snoke is (or has something to do with) the Force feelings and things that Palpatine was sensing out beyond in the Unknown Regions. I think it's totally possible that he sensed some dark force out there and wanted to know more about it.

Snoke could play into that. But I have no idea if Snoke every actually had contact with Palpatine.

DJ's left nut · 11-03-2017, 01:02 PM

Didn't Palpatine talk about some Sith that was such a badass he could essentially defy the laws of life/death; could effectively create life and make people immortal?

I read some fan theory about him being Anakin's 'dad' not too long ago.

Why couldn't Snoke be that guy? Hell, we could even have a "luuuuuuuke, I am your grandfather...." moment and really just turn this sequel into a shot for shot remake of the original trilogy.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-03-2017, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Didn't Palpatine talk about some Sith that was such a badass he could essentially defy the laws of life/death; could effectively create life and make people immortal?

I read some fan theory about him being Anakin's 'dad' not too long ago.

Why couldn't Snoke be that guy? Hell, we could even have a "luuuuuuuke, I am your grandfather...." moment and really just turn this sequel into a shot for shot remake of the original trilogy.

You're referring to Darth Plagueis, who was Palpatine's Sith Master, whom he killed in his sleep.

The reason why he's not Plagueis is two-fold: Plagueis was killed by Palpatine and once again, Pablo Hidalgo has confirmed that Snoke isn't Sith.

DJ's left nut · 11-03-2017, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're referring to Darth Plagueis, who was Palpatine's Sith Master, whom he killed in his sleep.

The reason why he's not Plagueis is two-fold: Plagueis was killed by Palpatine and once again, Pablo Hidalgo has confirmed that Snoke isn't Sith.

Who was the narrator for the 'killed in his sleep' story? If it was Palpatine, how trustworthy a narrator do we have there?

And would anyone actually gain anything by being honest with stuff like that? Hidalgo is something of an archivist/showrunner, no? I guess he could end up suffering a shot to his credibility but it wouldn't be hard to just say "haha, misdirection" and move along...

I think it's more likely than not that this theory and virtually all others are largely bullshit. But with this universe's willingness (neigh, eagerness) to circle back on itself with some regularity, it just seems like the kind of thing they'd do...

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-03-2017, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Who was the narrator for the 'killed in his sleep' story? If it was Palpatine, how trustworthy a narrator do we have there?

I think he was pretty trustworthy in that regard.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

And would anyone actually gain anything by being honest with stuff like that? Hidalgo is something of an archivist/showrunner, no? I guess he could end up suffering a shot to his credibility but it wouldn't be hard to just say "haha, misdirection" and move along...

I've followed Pablo on Twitter for years and he's nothing if not a straight shooter. He's involved in the Lucasfilm story group and he creates all of the Visual Dictionaries for the films, which IMO, are super cool. I have one for TFA and the Rogue One visual dictionary is on my Christmas list.

I think that if he lied, he'd catch hell for it on Twitter, at Star Wars Celebration and the various Star Wars panels he does around the world.

It wouldn't be a good look for him or Lucasfilm.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I think it's more likely than not that this theory and virtually all others are largely bullshit. But with this universe's willingness (neigh, eagerness) to circle back on itself with some regularity, it just seems like the kind of thing they'd do...

Plagueis was described in the book as being of the Muun race, which is humanoid but definitely alien. In the Episode VIII trailer, we've seen Snoke in the flesh and while he's not human but humanoid, he's certainly not a Muun.

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