Investing megathread extravaganza

[DaFace]

A place to talk about investing stuff.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by ChiefChoop

The age for required minimum distribution is 72. You don't think you'd want to take the minimum out of it by age 72?

Hard to know. I just don't like the fact that taking RMD is required, even if you aren't going to use the money. My parents have great pensions and in a few years will be required to start RMDs. They currently live just fine off their pensions and it's absurd they will be required to take RMDs, pay taxes on it and not even need it.

Just hard to know where life will take you as I'm only 37. I like the idea of having a retirement account that will not be required to be touched, while I could just draw from my 401k instead when required.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Not if you have Lewdog money

Well that's not true. If it was true, I would be over the income limits to contribute to a Roth.

[BigBeauford]

China refusing to release their GDP. Hoooo boy.

[scho63]

Originally Posted by BigBeauford

China refusing to release their GDP. Hoooo boy.

Can't make Xi look like an ass while he gives himself another 5 year term.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Well that's not true. If it was true, I would be over the income limits to contribute to a Roth.

Damn, I was hoping to slip that one by you.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I did know that but I didn't know this.

Another benefit of a Roth IRA....you aren't required to take minimum distributions like other retirement accounts at a certain age.

That's huge and I honestly had no idea.

Roth is the way to go if you qualify. The only reason not to go Roth is if you are highly confident you will pay less in taxes later than you will now.

[lewdog]

Changes for 2023.

The contribution limit for employees who participate in 401(k), 403(b), most 457 plans, and the federal government's Thrift Savings Plan is increased to $22,500, up from $20,500. The limit on annual contributions to an IRA increased to $6,500, up from $6,000.

https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/401k-li...m%20%246%2C000.

[scho63]

This country has a massive savings and retirement shortfall. It's gotten better but still poor, especially in minority households.

I'm all for anything government can encourage, endorse and help to get YOUNG people saving and investing money.

If the stupid ****s would stop with all the wokeness PC sex tranny shit and focus on Financial security and focus on interest, growth, stock market, dangers of debt, how to balance a checkbook, how to read a balance sheet, how to start a business, our country would benefit tremendously.

The same goes for health and nutrition.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by scho63

This country has a massive savings and retirement shortfall. It's gotten better but still poor, especially in minority low income households.

I'm all for anything government can encourage, endorse and help to get YOUNG people saving and investing money.

If the stupid ****s would stop with all the wokeness PC sex tranny shit and focus on Financial security and focus on interest, growth, stock market, dangers of debt, how to balance a checkbook, how to read a balance sheet, how to start a business, our country would benefit tremendously.

The same goes for health and nutrition.

Agree except bolded.

At least they’re addressing the limits. They didn’t for a long time and deserve credit for it.

I was thinking recently, when is the last time we had a protracted recession? It’s goddamn .com bubble/9-11. 08 housing crisis was severe but not protracted - shit was right back up there 8 months later. It is looking like this one is going to be with us awhile. So OK, shit 23 years ago. It’s hard to wrap your mind around how many people in the market today have not had exposure to a protracted recession in the stock market. Hell, I was paying attention but I didn’t have any money in.

That is the scary thing to me.

[scho63]

Excellent points, correction noted and agreed!

[-King-]

Yeah... I think I'll move most of my Tesla money elsewhere.

[Buehler445]

Only an ancillary relationship to the thread, but not thread worthy. In fact, I'm probably the only ****er that gives a shit, but the whole Theranos thing still blows my damned mind.

Elizabeth Holmes got 11 years for all the massive ****ing fraud and absolutely endangered the health of many customers and employees.

It was more than I expected, especially since she's been chillin for the last 7 years. But given the blatant bullshit she slung, it's pretty light. Maybe not through precedent, but in principle.

****ing Crazy ****.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/18/form...in-prison.html

[EPodolak]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Only an ancillary relationship to the thread, but not thread worthy. In fact, I'm probably the only ****er that gives a shit, but the whole Theranos thing still blows my damned mind.

Elizabeth Holmes got 11 years for all the massive ****ing fraud and absolutely endangered the health of many customers and employees.

It was more than I expected, especially since she's been chillin for the last 7 years. But given the blatant bullshit she slung, it's pretty light. Maybe not through precedent, but in principle.

****ing Crazy ****.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/18/form...in-prison.html

A little sociopath in that one, and with her ambition it's a bad combo.

[PunkinDrublic]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Only an ancillary relationship to the thread, but not thread worthy. In fact, I'm probably the only ****er that gives a shit, but the whole Theranos thing still blows my damned mind.

Elizabeth Holmes got 11 years for all the massive ****ing fraud and absolutely endangered the health of many customers and employees.

It was more than I expected, especially since she's been chillin for the last 7 years. But given the blatant bullshit she slung, it's pretty light. Maybe not through precedent, but in principle.

****ing Crazy ****.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/18/form...in-prison.html

I listened to “Bad Blood” on audible, she’s a piece of shit who could’ve killed countless people if not for a few whistleblowers within Theranos. That bitch tried to destroy people who spoke out against what she was doing.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

I listened to “Bad Blood” on audible, she’s a piece of shit who could’ve killed countless people if not for a few whistleblowers within Theranos. That bitch tried to destroy people who spoke out against what she was doing.

Listen to "Thicker Than Water". It's by Tyler Schultz, grandson of George Schultz who was one of the whistleblowers. His story and that of Erika Cheung is really ****ing interesting. It's shorter and much more personal than Bad Blood. If you're going to listen to Bad Blood, Thicker than Water is worth the time.

It got much more into the math of just how bad the efficacy of their tests were. It was real ****ing bad.

But the really interesting part is the family dynamics in the Schultz family. The ****ing old man general was bamboozled hard. Like cult level shit.

Weird man.