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Old 11-02-2016, 10:51 AM  
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BREAKING: Nick Foles starting against Jags
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Old 11-06-2016, 11:40 PM   #1291
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Anyone who watched Foles wildly inaccurate throws, (especially in the end zone to Hill) and blame Reid, or think Alex wouldn't have done better is being intentionally obtuse.
I agree that Alex is better but still think Andy's play calling has held this offense back. not much in this game besides that one redzone trip.
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Old 11-07-2016, 08:27 AM   #1292
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That was a pretty damn bad outing by Foles.

Back to wanting a first round QB!
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Old 11-07-2016, 08:47 AM   #1293
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That was a pretty damn bad outing by Foles.

Back to wanting a first round QB!


NO need with this style of offense that Big Andy likes to run... Its more of a plug and play with same style regardless of the QB.
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Old 11-07-2016, 08:50 AM   #1294
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Exactly. Especially when. Youre running reverse inside the redzone.

You don't need a elite caliber QB. You need a solid game manager.. we have that and we can outsmart any DC any time.
I about threw my shoe through my TV with that stupid play call.
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Old 11-07-2016, 08:54 AM   #1295
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Anyone who watched Foles wildly inaccurate throws, (especially in the end zone to Hill) and blame Reid, or think Alex wouldn't have done better is being intentionally obtuse.
Its simply the fact that many people want to be so right that Smith isn't the best QB option available right now that they will make every excuse in the book to play someone else regardless of the outcome.

And then when someone like Foles obviously stinks it up the defense is he is now worse than Smith which is just ridiculous.

We already went down this road with Booger but nobody remembers that.

Smith isn't elite, but he is the best we have right now and he is better than he gets credit for.
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Old 11-07-2016, 08:54 AM   #1296
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I about threw my shoe through my TV with that stupid play call.
Smith, Foles, Bray, Murray, Daniels, ETC.... It doesnt matter who the QB is. Stat lines dont lie and the play calling isnt changing...
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Old 11-07-2016, 09:00 AM   #1297
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Its simply the fact that many people want to be so right that Smith isn't the best QB option available right now that they will make every excuse in the book to play someone else regardless of the outcome.

And then when someone like Foles obviously stinks it up the defense is he is now worse than Smith which is just ridiculous.

We already went down this road with Booger but nobody remembers that.

Smith isn't elite, but he is the best we have right now and he is better than he gets credit for.
It proves that the QB in really interchangeable at this point...

Two wildly different QB's, completely different skillsets, same statistical results and a W...

Yesterdays games was a repeat of the last 4 years of Reid.. A regular season game that left you glad for the W and frustrated for the future.
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Old 11-07-2016, 09:10 AM   #1298
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Yep. No matter who is under center. Same game plan. Foles, Smith , drunk monkey, masturbatory true fan. Results the same.

Foles was Alex Smith today. Carbon copy.
If Smith's under center the game doesn't come down to how good Telvin Smith's hands are.

I feel like people are overlooking what was unquestionably the worst play of the game because it didn't get held onto. Foles stared down his read in the middle of the field, Smith just baited him and broke on the the ball. If he catches it, it's probably a pick 6 and the Jags take the lead with about 4 minutes left to go. And Telvin Smith is a damn good football player; not knowing where he was on that play would be similar to just blowing off DJ on a key late-down drive. He had to know Smith was there and he just didn't.

THAT is the play that keeps Foles in a backup role. It wasn't even the braindead hurl in the first quarter; that play is recoverable. It was that throw that had backbreaking pick written all over it.

And another one that may not have looked as obvious on TV may show up when the All 22 comes out - the play that Kelce was OOB on because he bobbled it. Kelce was camped out over there and had a nice chance for a catch and run if Foles hits him on time. Instead Foles was indecisive and felt a little phantom pressure, he rolled into it and had to fire late. By then, the defense had started to come over to Kelce and Kelce had lost his rhythm on the route.

Foles was adequate today but he was exactly what he appears to be; a guy that's just not consistently dangerous enough downfield for his aggression to overcome his erratic decision-making and accuracy.
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Old 11-08-2016, 11:24 AM   #1299
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My wife called me up yesterday and said that her customer told her that he went to HS with Nick Foles.

He said his nickname in high school was "Foot Long Foles".....heh.
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Old 11-08-2016, 11:32 AM   #1300
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My wife called me up yesterday and said that her customer told her that he went to HS with Nick Foles.

He said his nickname in high school was "Foot Long Foles".....heh.
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Old 11-08-2016, 12:13 PM   #1301
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If Smith's under center the game doesn't come down to how good Telvin Smith's hands are.

I feel like people are overlooking what was unquestionably the worst play of the game because it didn't get held onto. Foles stared down his read in the middle of the field, Smith just baited him and broke on the the ball. If he catches it, it's probably a pick 6 and the Jags take the lead with about 4 minutes left to go. And Telvin Smith is a damn good football player; not knowing where he was on that play would be similar to just blowing off DJ on a key late-down drive. He had to know Smith was there and he just didn't.

THAT is the play that keeps Foles in a backup role. It wasn't even the braindead hurl in the first quarter; that play is recoverable. It was that throw that had backbreaking pick written all over it.

And another one that may not have looked as obvious on TV may show up when the All 22 comes out - the play that Kelce was OOB on because he bobbled it. Kelce was camped out over there and had a nice chance for a catch and run if Foles hits him on time. Instead Foles was indecisive and felt a little phantom pressure, he rolled into it and had to fire late. By then, the defense had started to come over to Kelce and Kelce had lost his rhythm on the route.

Foles was adequate today but he was exactly what he appears to be; a guy that's just not consistently dangerous enough downfield for his aggression to overcome his erratic decision-making and accuracy.
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I lost 6 months out of the year that I own his Av and sig because he was either banned or whatever.

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If Smith's under center the game doesn't come down to how good Telvin Smith's hands are.

I feel like people are overlooking what was unquestionably the worst play of the game because it didn't get held onto. Foles stared down his read in the middle of the field, Smith just baited him and broke on the the ball. If he catches it, it's probably a pick 6 and the Jags take the lead with about 4 minutes left to go. And Telvin Smith is a damn good football player; not knowing where he was on that play would be similar to just blowing off DJ on a key late-down drive. He had to know Smith was there and he just didn't.

THAT is the play that keeps Foles in a backup role. It wasn't even the braindead hurl in the first quarter; that play is recoverable. It was that throw that had backbreaking pick written all over it.

And another one that may not have looked as obvious on TV may show up when the All 22 comes out - the play that Kelce was OOB on because he bobbled it. Kelce was camped out over there and had a nice chance for a catch and run if Foles hits him on time. Instead Foles was indecisive and felt a little phantom pressure, he rolled into it and had to fire late. By then, the defense had started to come over to Kelce and Kelce had lost his rhythm on the route.

Foles was adequate today but he was exactly what he appears to be; a guy that's just not consistently dangerous enough downfield for his aggression to overcome his erratic decision-making and accuracy.
Exactly.

I think people need to keep things in perspective.

For a game where Maclin and Kelcee both left, our 3rd string HB was in, and and we had to win with our b/u QB he did fine. He did ok for a b/u. He did more positive than negative but didn't do a whole lot. Passing grade.

For a starting QB he looked pretty poor for much of the day.

Good thing he's a better-than-average b/u and not our regular starting QB...
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He tries to "outthink" the opposing DC's.

He can do this because his defenses, historically, are capable of making up the difference.

That said, I always cringe when they're in the Red Zone.
He really does appear to be afraid of letting the DC figure out what he is doing. Sometimes you just have to make the defense stop you, and not stop yourself worried about staying 1 step ahead. Sometimes on a 3-2 count you just throw your fastball because it's your best pitch and you don't worry about if the hitter knows it's coming.
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While you guys are ragging on Reid, I have to temporarily stand in your corner.
His play calling drives me ****ing bonkers.

I'm all about being Unpredictable... but hot damn some of the calls in the red zone are just utter garbage.
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