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Old 04-28-2022, 09:16 PM  
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Old 09-20-2022, 12:39 PM   #1291
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That’s great. I usually check out the snap counts after the game but missed it this week. Good to see rookie defenders are getting a look sooner than we saw previously under Spags.
I agree it’s great , fat finger on thumb’s down
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Old 09-20-2022, 09:59 PM   #1292
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Old 09-21-2022, 12:54 AM   #1293
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We got a guy who's just as good as the #2 overall pick at #30. That's exactly how you sustain long term success in this business. That Tyreek trade is looking better all the time.
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Old 09-21-2022, 01:52 AM   #1294
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We got a guy who's just as good as the #2 overall pick at #30. That's exactly how you sustain long term success in this business. That Tyreek trade is looking better all the time.
Just as good? Hutchinson has a 3 sack game already.
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Old 09-21-2022, 02:14 AM   #1295
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Just as good? Hutchinson has a 3 sack game already.
So George registsed nine pressures against Murray and Herbert and Hutch is better because he actually sacked Carson Wentz three times. That's what your saying, correct?
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Old 09-21-2022, 02:33 AM   #1296
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So George registsed nine pressures against Murray and Herbert and Hutch is better because he actually sacked Carson Wentz three times. That's what your saying, correct?
I’m saying that sacks are harder to get and better for your team than pressures.

Also, sacks are not recorded as pressures, so Hutchinson had 9 pressures AND 3 sacks.
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Old 09-21-2022, 03:46 AM   #1297
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I’m saying that sacks are harder to get and better for your team than pressures.

Also, sacks are not recorded as pressures, so Hutchinson had 9 pressures AND 3 sacks.
No, sacks are absolutely recorded as pressures.

Pressure = sack + hit + hurry

He has 9 pressures composed of 3 sacks and 6 hurries.

Karlaftis has 9 pressures composed of 2 hits and 7 hurries.

There is no disputing that a sack is better than a hit which is better than a hurry.
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Old 09-21-2022, 04:03 AM   #1298
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I’m saying that sacks are harder to get and better for your team than pressures.

Also, sacks are not recorded as pressures, so Hutchinson had 9 pressures AND 3 sacks.
Hutchinson is probably going to be better, he should be. The question is the margin. He's been up against slightly better OTs I think after 2 games and it's way too early, but at this point the difference doesn't look like it should be nearly a full round.
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Old 09-21-2022, 07:12 AM   #1299
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Hutchinson is probably going to be better, he should be. The question is the margin. He's been up against slightly better OTs I think after 2 games and it's way too early, but at this point the difference doesn't look like it should be nearly a full round.
And apart from the draft capital - lost in the 'new rookie slotting' era is that there is STILL a substantial difference in salary from the front of the 1st to the back.

Hutchinson will make $35 million in his first 4 years. Karlaftis will make $12. A $6 million/season difference on the cap ain't worth scoffing at - that's a pretty big deal.
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Off subject a little, but the Hutchinson pick reminds me of a funny story while in Vegas at the draft…

I stood next to and was talking with a Lions fan right before they selected him. Just before Roger announced the pick, an extremely tall and rude Raiders fan stood right in front of us. The Lions fan firmly stated, “Hell’s Bells! I spend a ton of money to go to Vegas to see my Lions draft just to have some gigantic Raiders fan block my view! The draft is our Super Bowl damn it!”

Due to the crowd appreciating the Lion fan’s humor, everyone laughed and all started yelling “down in front!”. The Raiders fan moved on immediately.
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And apart from the draft capital - lost in the 'new rookie slotting' era is that there is STILL a substantial difference in salary from the front of the 1st to the back.

Hutchinson will make $35 million in his first 4 years. Karlaftis will make $12. A $6 million/season difference on the cap ain't worth scoffing at - that's a pretty big deal.
Very good point
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Off subject a little, but the Hutchinson pick reminds me of a funny story while in Vegas at the draft…

I stood next to and was talking with a Lions fan right before they selected him. Just before Roger announced the pick, an extremely tall and rude Raiders fan stood right in front of us. The Lions fan firmly stated, “Hell’s Bells! I spend a ton of money to go to Vegas to see my Lions draft just to have some gigantic Raiders fan block my view! The draft is our Super Bowl damn it!”

Due to the crowd appreciating the Lion fan’s humor, everyone laughed and all started yelling “down in front!”. The Raiders fan moved on slinked off immediately.
Good story, with a little upgrade.
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I’m saying that sacks are harder to get and better for your team than pressures.

Also, sacks are not recorded as pressures, so Hutchinson had 9 pressures AND 3 sacks.
Where are you seeing that? I always thought a pressure was a sack, hurry, or knock-down.
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I’m saying that sacks are harder to get and better for your team than pressures.

Also, sacks are not recorded as pressures, so Hutchinson had 9 pressures AND 3 sacks.
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