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Old 04-28-2023, 06:41 PM  
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Old 10-02-2023, 02:19 AM   #1291
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I think he's gonna be good but he just needs time. He's an excellent chain mover that gets YAC so effectively. Keep doing that and slowly work some new stuff in.

The drops suck but you know who else had bad drops as a rookie? Devante Adams. Not saying Rice is Adams but this is fixable.
Hell I remember Tony G having a lot of problems early in his career.
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Old 10-02-2023, 02:33 AM   #1292
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I’m not counting on him being able to improve the drops by a huge measure, but I do think he will learn to focus on the ball till it’s in his hands more. I just think it’s part of him as a player. He will make a lot of incredible plays, it I think he will always have focus drops.

He’s very very similar to Dwayne Bowe in that sense, but he’s a lot more focused than Bowe ever was (even during Haley years) and I think he will have similar production to Bowe.

As someone else said, we just need to hope that his drops don’t change games by tipped pick 6s.
But tonight it did change the game to a degree, b/c instead of getting the easy 1st down, the drop made the Chiefs settle for a FG.
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Old 10-02-2023, 03:27 AM   #1293
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But tonight it did change the game to a degree, b/c instead of getting the easy 1st down, the drop made the Chiefs settle for a FG.
He drops the ball every game, sometimes twice. Then he'll make three really nice plays where he shows his explosive YAC ability. 3 to 1 ratio isn't bad for a rookie who's played in four games. He's looking good. He's showing more potential than Moore at a minimum.

Moore has a little Meh in his game and he's not shaking it. He's not fast but can cut. It just doesn't fit our style of ball very well. If you're not fast then you at least need to be a bigger body like Juju, Gray, or Watson. Moore and CEH are both small. I'm not catching the good vibes at the moment. Hopefully it's just a growing phase.
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At this point, his NFL highlight reel might not be as long as his blooper reel. It's frustrating because he has chemistry with Mahomes, and his quickness and physicality are apparent in every game.
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Old 10-02-2023, 10:09 PM   #1295
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Ok, so he has some stupid drops, but right now he is our go to WR for 1st downs and leads all WRs on this team in 1st down catches.

Rice - 8
Watson - 5
Moore - 5
Toney - 4
MVS - 4
James - 0
Ross - 0

I really wish they'd let Rice get 60% of the snaps, because I think he'd really take off. He's only played in 37% of the total snaps, but he's still on pace for 595 yds. The James and Toney injuries might be blessing in disguises, because it gets Rice more work and should probably speed up his development.
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Old 10-02-2023, 11:10 PM   #1296
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Ok, so he has some stupid drops, but right now he is our go to WR for 1st downs and leads all WRs on this team in 1st down catches.

Rice - 8
Watson - 5
Moore - 5
Toney - 4
MVS - 4
James - 0
Ross - 0

I really wish they'd let Rice get 60% of the snaps, because I think he'd really take off. He's only played in 37% of the total snaps, but he's still on pace for 595 yds. The James and Toney injuries might be blessing in disguises, because it gets Rice more work and should probably speed up his development.
How many times has it been said that Reid's offense is notoriously complicated and takes time to pick up and learn? Dude is a rookie WR, they are working him in. Rice needs time to learn the playbook and Mahomes needs time to learn to trust him to be where he's supposed to be and that he will actually catch the damn ball. Pretend it's our defense of the last few years that slowly ramps up all season.
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Old 10-02-2023, 11:17 PM   #1297
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How many times has it been said that Reid's offense is notoriously complicated and takes time to pick up and learn? Dude is a rookie WR, they are working him in. Rice needs time to learn the playbook and Mahomes needs time to learn to trust him to be where he's supposed to be and that he will actually catch the damn ball. Pretend it's our defense of the last few years that slowly ramps up all season.
I know what's been said and I don't really care. When he gets opportunities he makes a play and makes more plays than anyone else not named Kelce or Pacheco. He's already the best WR on the team. Learning in game is gonna do wonders for his development. Sure, it's a complicated system, but they do rookies a disservice by the way they utilize them. Rice looks like the only guy worth a shit, so I'd like to see the guy that is making plays keep playing.
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Old 10-03-2023, 05:30 AM   #1298
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How many times has it been said that Reid's offense is notoriously complicated and takes time to pick up and learn? Dude is a rookie WR, they are working him in. Rice needs time to learn the playbook and Mahomes needs time to learn to trust him to be where he's supposed to be and that he will actually catch the damn ball. Pretend it's our defense of the last few years that slowly ramps up all season.
This is a cop out. Juju was new and he hit the ground running. So did Watkins more or less. This narrative needs to die.
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Old 10-03-2023, 06:34 AM   #1299
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How many times has it been said that Reid's offense is notoriously complicated and takes time to pick up and learn? Dude is a rookie WR, they are working him in. Rice needs time to learn the playbook and Mahomes needs time to learn to trust him to be where he's supposed to be and that he will actually catch the damn ball. Pretend it's our defense of the last few years that slowly ramps up all season.
Plans change. They thought they could just plug in Skyy for Juju and elevate Toney's role, but obviously that hasn't worked out. So they need to pivot. What they're seeing is Rashee is plenty ready to take on a bigger role. ALthough he has drops he has shown an advanced understanding of playing within the offense. Way better than even guys like Skyy who've been in the system for over a year.

It's not like Andy is allergic to playing rookies. Desean Jackson had almost 1000 years in his rookie year and was the team's reception leader. The year after that Maclin had 770 yards. Now that they know he's needed in that role, they should focus on getting him more reps. It's not vulturing anybody else's because nobody has yet claimed the role we want him in.
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This is a cop out. Juju was new and he hit the ground running. So did Watkins more or less. This narrative needs to die.
those arent rookies lmao. pretty significant difference
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Man I love how fast Rice turns up field once he catches the ball. Faster than any other WR on the roster. However I also think that’s part of his drop issues


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Man I love how fast Rice turns up field once he catches the ball. Faster than any other WR on the roster. However I also think that’s part of his drop issues


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those arent rookies lmao. pretty significant difference
Ya think? Regardless for a new player to a new system it doesn't really matter if they are a rookie or just a newcomer. Its new to everyone.
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Ya think? Regardless for a new player to a new system it doesn't really matter if they are a rookie or just a newcomer. Its new to everyone.
Rookies aren't just learning a playbook. They're learning how to be pros and adjusting to the jump in competition on top of everything else. The vets already have a good grasp of NFL concepts, the speed of the game, etc.

Of course only you need this nuance explained to you.
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